Shooting left and down. Help with trigger control?

[Blackhorse2010]

I think you have it reversed.

Tightening the grip of the other fingers of the strong hand will cause shots to go low...it affects the raise of the the muzzle.

Jerking the trigger moves to shots to the left...because you're curling your trigger finger


Before you can practice technique in Dry Fire, you have to learn the correct technique.

With a consistent grip and understanding how to align the sights, trigger management will always determine accuracy. The trick is to learn the correct process of pressing the trigger straight to the rear without trying to catch/time the press with seeing the sights perfectly aligned on the target...the goal is to "Stay in the Process"

Until the OP learns the correct technique to trigger management, he is just as likely to ingrain a bad technique

OK, hold your gun in your firing hand with a moderate grip pressure.
Increase the grip pressure. Which way did your barrel move?

Just a quick question though, how many students have you formally taught?
Seriously, if it's more than 150, I'll quit posting.

[BamBam-31]

OK, hold your gun in your firing hand with a moderate grip pressure.
Increase the grip pressure. Which way did your barrel move?

Just a quick question though, how many students have you formally taught?
Seriously, if it's more than 150, I'll quit posting.

You should quit posting, then.

[Blackhorse2010]

You should quit posting, then.

Yea, you're probably right.
Later fellas.

[USM0083]

Trigger control = manipulating the trigger without disturbing the sights

I see shot groups like yours all the time. It's already been pointed out that you are anticipating recoil (shots go low), in addition to too much trigger finger/yanking the trigger (shots go the left).

Another point is follow through, completing the trigger press (gun goes BANG) and recovering/resetting for the next shot. When you are doing dry fire practice, try pressing straight back on the trigger as SLOW as you can until the gun goes click, then HOLD IT. Do not release the trigger or alter your grip or stance. Imagine the gun recoiling up and back down on target, reacquiring your sights and resetting your trigger without totally letting out your finger. You actually have two chances to jerk the trigger, once as you press it and once as you release it.

Grip is important for trigger and recoil management. You can have a totally fubar'd grip and still can shoot tight groups, as long as you can manipulate the trigger without disturbing the sights (too much.) Try to keep your grip on the pistol separate from your trigger finger. Once your grip is established, do not keep changing it, especially during your trigger press. Once your have committed to firing a round, try to perform your trigger press in a single even motion (be it slow or fast.)

Do you have someone that can help you practice dry fire? A useful exercise is to dry fire and have your helper cycle the slide. This allows you to complete the trigger press, simulate recoil, practice your follow through/sight reacquisition/trigger reset.

Always reset for your next shot; don't immediately break your sight picture and grip so you can look at your holes. Remember to focus on your front sight, steady trigger press straight back, and good follow through for your next shot (even if your are not firing another shot in the that sequence.) Good stance to support the gun, and good grip to manage recoil.

[titleist686]

Another random tip: exhale 100% right before you pull the trigger.

[9mmepiphany]

I didn't realize there was going to be drama overnight, I honestly thought he had just reversed what he meant to post.

However, I'd point out that if you tighten your grip on a gun and it moves laterally, you aren't gripping correctly with your strong hand. The lower fingers of your strong hand should only be pulling the frame straight back into the the web of that hand. The finger tips shouldn't be exerting lateral pressure at all...that is the correct function of your support hand

[Voo]

OK, hold your gun in your firing hand with a moderate grip pressure.
Increase the grip pressure. Which way did your barrel move?

Just a quick question though, how many students have you formally taught?
Seriously, if it's more than 150, I'll quit posting.

You should quit posting, then.

Bwhahahaha.. self pwnage!!! awesome stuff..

And yea.. 9mmepiphany has a wheeeeeeee bit of experience..

[gemini1]

OK, hold your gun in your firing hand with a moderate grip pressure.
Increase the grip pressure. Which way did your barrel move?

Just a quick question though, how many students have you formally taught?
Seriously, if it's more than 150, I'll quit posting.

Not sure how many students he's taught. But I did a one on one tutorial at the range with 9mmepiphany. And though I cannot say that my problem is completely cured (same as OP), there's been a big change in the way I shoot after heeding his advices.

[tbc]

My groupings have improved significantly mainly because I applied the stuffs from 9mm's posts.

I wish I have the time to get trained from him in person.


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