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  • #61
    SVTNate
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 1418

    Why would my Baer need grease? It has run flawlessly from Round One without it.

    I am not some huge Baer fan... in fact I bought my latest Baer as a beater gun. It's my cheapest 1911, and not my most accurate. I just don't have a high opinion of Kimber.

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    • #62
      45R
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 2028

      Originally posted by X-NewYawker
      So.. you want to shoot a $2500 custom pistol against a $700 pistol out of the box and you're bragging that yours will be more accurate?

      Jesus I hope so or you pissed you money down the drain!

      I love this MIM hysteria on this and other sites -- it reminds me of the "cheap Japanese car" stuff I heard when I was a kid, and the "Poisonous Chinese toys BS" I hear today. It's casting vs forging all over again. They are not using MIM to make barrels. They are using it to make parts that full within the acceptable stress ratings. You would probably crap yourself if you knew the exact geneology of the every single screw in your pistol. I've had three series 70 Gold Cups made by the the then saintly Colt Corporation. They used a cheap roll pin to hold the Elliason rear sight on the gun. When the pin failed the sight came off. Then we replaced the pin. You youngsters and your hate of modern technology. You know, they make some of these gun parts out of the country? and some frames of pistols are made of... shudder... plastic! If MIM internals fail, the manufacturers would cease using them. They are not entirely used cause they're cheaper, do a little research outside the tavern next to the range.
      Its his money to "piss away". Who is bragging, he is just responding to a statement Rabbit made about his MIMber.

      Originally posted by rabbitstew
      I had the same problem with a eclipse target II, it was so frustrating spending $1300 on a gun and having FTF's. After 1200 rounds I found out that my gun hates chips mags, so they went in the trash. I put a 18.5 recoil spring and purchased a kings mag (local guns shop) Now shoots like a dream with quality ammo.
      Originally posted by rabbitstew
      A les Baer without a breakin period is a rarity, almost impossible. My buddie just broke his in after 3000 rounds. That darn gun wouldnt shoot 20 rounds with out jamming. And my kimber would most likely out shoot your $3000 baer in a heart beat.
      Last edited by 45R; 07-20-2008, 6:08 AM.
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      • #63
        Crazed_SS
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 4114

        Break-in schmeak-in.. My Springer 1911 has been blasting flawlessly from round one.. cheap factory mags and all.. Used WWB, CCI, Hydra Shocks, etc.. all work great. Ammo is expensive.. requiring $150 worth of ammo to get a $800 gun to work correctly is unnacceptalbe IMO.
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        • #64
          BlackDrop50
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 1016

          Break it in first. Kimbers are tight, need to loosen up a little. Mine was finicky during break-in. Also don't buy Wilson mags, they cause mine to FTF last round. I use KimPro TacMags no problems at all. I don't know about the Wilson ETMs but the 47Ds/Cs... etc aren't built the best.

          Approaching 2500 rounds no problems, mine keeps going and I tested it's accuracy this past week at 30+ yards was impressed.

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          • #65
            FlyingPen
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 2377

            Originally posted by X-NewYawker
            I love how there are people who LOVE their GLOCKS with the blind faith of Evangelical Christians, and respond to any threat or question with just how perfect these firearms are -- which are cranked out like any industrial product.
            This is quite true. I would like Glocks more if it weren't for the rabid fanboys.

            To my friends and I, the Glock is the Infiniti G35 of guns. That is, rabid fanboys ruin the gun/car because they think it's as good as a Sig/BMW and they won't stop telling you so even if you don't care.
            Last edited by FlyingPen; 07-20-2008, 9:08 AM.

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            • #66
              diginit
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3250

              Originally posted by arfan66
              Kimber mags are crap. There's no way to disassemble & clean them (at least the one that came with my pistol). The followers are also pretty hard on alloy frames. I recommend Wilson Combat 47D's (cheaper than the Tactical Elite mags but work just as well). The partial/failure to feed is usually an improperly seated mag. The next time it happens slam the mag up with your support hand (finger off the trigger and muzzle down range, of course) and I'll bet it goes into battery (good malfunction drill to practice). Oh yeah, the other's have eloquently stated......lube, lube and lube

              If you're really worried about it just sell it to me.....j/k I love my Kimber!

              Good Luck!
              Kimber mags are easy to dissasemble. Put 3 or 4 rounds in it, Put a rod or nail through one of the holes close to the follower to hold the spring back, Remove the rounds, turn it upside down, the follower will fallout. pull the rod and watch as the spring shoots out the mag and sticks into your wall,face, etc.(this won't happen if you cover it with your hand or reinsert the rounds, pull the rod,and remove them.)To reassemble. Put the spring back, load 3 or 4 and pin with the rod. Remove the rounds and insert the follower,put the rounds back and remove the rod or just pull the rod out. Now wasn't that easy?

              As for the jams... OIL, As per the kimber manual, Available online in pdf format. If you use grease, use very little just to prevent gaulling on the slide rails only. Definately oil the rod and spring or it will wear. Any part that moves alot or slides upon another should have a light coat.
              I've found that I need to dissasemble the extractor and clean it on occasion or it will 3 point on the last rnd in the mag. There's not enough tension to force the rnd up into a dirty extractor.
              Over 5000 rounds and counting through my Stainless TLE II. With out the spring replacement that kimber recommends at every 3000.
              Still Shoots Great! She eats Wolf, WWB, CCI, American Eagle, And just loves Speer Lawman because it's cleaner. 12062 seems to be the best OAL for the 230 gr ball ammo for my reloads and the 231 burns clean.

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              • #67
                SVTNate
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 1418

                Originally posted by 45R
                Its his money to "piss away". Who is bragging, he is just responding to a statement Rabbit made about his MIMber.
                Exactly, Rabbit seemed sure that his MIMber would outshoot my Baer, I simply invited him to put his money where his mouth is.

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                • #68
                  360PA
                  Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 367

                  Kimber Jam

                  FWIW, I bet if you put a stronger recoil spring in it never jams again.

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                  • #69
                    Shenaniguns
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 6155

                    Originally posted by 360PA
                    FWIW, I bet if you put a stronger recoil spring in it never jams again.

                    My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                    • #70
                      tiko
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 866

                      Originally posted by vandal
                      Google 1911 extractor tension and test yours. It is probably a little on the tight side.
                      That is what happened to my Kimber Raptor II, after 100 rds, the extractor is more flex out and no more FTF.
                      Do it yourself.

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                      • #71
                        savs2k
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1807

                        need help guys!!! http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...39#post1374439 NEW PROBLEM with my kimber please take a look and comment if you know

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                        • #72
                          RX_Pilot
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 57

                          I just picked up my TLE/RL this morning. Stripped it down, cleaned it and relubed. Put 150 rounds through it this afternoon without any drama. Loaded and Fired every time.

                          Ammo was CCI Blazer Brass.

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                          • #73
                            BlackDrop50
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1016

                            Why don't you try shooting it more instead of worrying about stuff the manual tells you about. I did the same thing as you and when I look back I was too quick to point blame instead of BREAKING IT IN. SHOOT IT MORE. AFTER 500-600 ROUNDS THEN LET US KNOW. UNTIL THEN....

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