Trigger pull weight on HD gun

[penguinofsleep]

First of all, yes, I did run both a forum and google search on calguns for this already so in before dupe police and dead horse. And also in before I do what I want right to defense California is communist or w/e similar argument about just doing w/e I want and not worrying about any possible legal consequences.

Anyways, I'd like to confirm that for a hd gun, there hasn't been someone who has gotten in trouble for using a modified or lightened trigger as long as the trigger was still over a given weight and was safe (ie didn't go off on accident bc <1oz pull weight, no broken sear resulting in full auto, etc) correct? For arguments sake, let's say trigger pull weight is above 3.5, 4, or 4.5lb (numbers chosen bc that I can think of many stock 1911s out of the box that are on ca safe list with those weights).

Would it be different if it were a 1911 that came at that weight vs say a glock or anything else someone took down to that weight (since the weight is the same in the end)? Or let's say you have a gun you just really like but it comes with a 12lb da trigger and you took it to 7or 8 to avoid missing on accident bc the trigger is so heavy... Still very very well in what I would view as safe, but could this cause problems? Again this is all assuming the gun is still generally considered safe as described above.

[Ritchie8719]

No one has gotten in trouble.

[Press Check]

First of all, yes, I did run both a forum and google search on calguns for this already so in before dupe police and dead horse. And also in before I do what I want right to defense California is communist or w/e similar argument about just doing w/e I want and not worrying about any possible legal consequences.

Anyways, I'd like to confirm that for a hd gun, there hasn't been someone who has gotten in trouble for using a modified or lightened trigger as long as the trigger was still over a given weight and was safe (ie didn't go off on accident bc <1oz pull weight, no broken sear resulting in full auto, etc) correct? For arguments sake, let's say trigger pull weight is above 3.5, 4, or 4.5lb (numbers chosen bc that I can think of many stock 1911s out of the box that are on ca safe list with those weights).

Would it be different if it were a 1911 that came at that weight vs say a glock or anything else someone took down to that weight (since the weight is the same in the end)? Or let's say you have a gun you just really like but it comes with a 12lb da trigger and you took it to 7or 8 to avoid missing on accident bc the trigger is so heavy... Still very very well in what I would view as safe, but could this cause problems? Again this is all assuming the gun is still generally considered safe as described above.

Regardless of how light the pull is, a good shoot is a good shoot, period.

[ERdept]

If you need to protect your family or life, and your target gun with 2lb trigger is all you got, then that's it.


Does it matter if you use the paring knife, or the chef's knife, if it's all you got?

[digdug74]

Can I cite a specific case off the top of my head wherein a modified trigger made the difference between a conviction or an acquittal in a SD case? No, however It's not hard to imagine a prosecutor arguing that you made your gun "more deadly" by modifying the trigger and I'd just assume avoid that addition potential pitfall. I'm sure that if you were to research SD case law you'd probably find many examples of attorneys making just such arguments.

[kentactic]

You could accidently pull the trigger on a 10lb trigger under stress. If you say you feared for your life and the scene reflects that then wether god pulled the trigger or you did it dosent matter.

[Bad Caselaw]

I like the std. 5.5 lb. Glock trigger.

I keep my trigger finger out of the guard and along the slide/frame until I am Shooting, not just readying to shoot.




Caselaw

[CAGLS]

Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot your intended target.

[SOAR79]

What a collection CAGLS!!!

[hermosabeach]

A clean shoot is a clean shoot.....

Be it with a 100 year old English double, a drilling your Great Grandfather brought back from the war or any modern gun.....

Plenty of examples of NY LEO shooting with a heavy trigger and hitting bystanders....

Plenty of video showing LEO having an ND with a Double Action trigger...

Focus on training, not equipment and all will be well

[Khromo]

The appropriate trigger pull weight is entirely dependent on the training, experience, skill level, and courage of the guy standing behind it. There is no magic number that works for everybody.

If you are involved in a bad shooting, the trigger pull of your gun is probably going to be the least of your problems. It will probably be no more nor less than one of many details.

I've had to work with rookies and amateurs over the years. I didn't like being around those folks in high stress situations, I didn't even like standing behind them.

Don't kid yourself into thinking a high CalGuns post count has anything to do with it, either! Internet campaigns and video games tend to distort a person's sense of his own limitations. Go to any public gun range and see what I mean!

[dad4mnc]

The OCSD does a weapons check for every weapon on a CCW. If the trigger weight is less than 4lbs, it does not pass. I don't know what went into setting the bar at 4 lbs.

[CAGLS]

What a collection CAGLS!!!

Thanks, I'm not done.

[Che762x39]

The OCSD does a weapons check for every weapon on a CCW. If the trigger weight is less than 4lbs, it does not pass. I don't know what went into setting the bar at 4 lbs.

Best answer.

Lots of know it alls in CA. But for every one guy/gal who gets professional training, nine bubbas read a gun mag or surf the web. Not judging just saying ..

[hossb7]

NYPD has the "new york" trigger in their glocks to prevent them from "accidentally pulling the trigger". im not sure what the weight is but it's heaver than MOST double action pulls.

having a heavy trigger does not make up for lack of training.

Personally, i think a 5lb trigger is light enough. I had my M&P worked on by apex and they rated it at 4lbs 13 ounces and that's plenty light.