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  • Derek L
    Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 116

    Double Tap

    I tried looking on the forums for an answer, but couldn't find any.

    This might be a technique/form issue and I'm looking for confirmation: I haven't shot my P229 9mm in a while and decided to take it to the range. Shot about 50rds when I notice 2rds would fire when I pull the tigger. This only happend twice and after shooting around 100rds it stopped. Gun or techique or I merely forgot how to hold a pistol since its been awhile?
  • #2
    CK_32
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2010
    • 14369

    How old is the gun, about round count and any "upgrading" or gun work been done to it?
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    • #3
      Derek L
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 116

      Picked it up about a year ago brand new. No upgrades. I would say around 800 rounds through it.

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      • #4
        SILENT GUNMAN
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1468

        If you have the SRT kit in it the reset is so short you may not even notice you're pulling the trigger a second time.
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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19849

          A Double tap is intentionally shooting two shots.

          How do you hold the trigger when you shoot?
          do you trap the trigger to the rear and reset the sear as the sights are coming back onto target? or do you have your finger fly off of the trigger?
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            limitdown
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 466

            Hold the gun tighter with your weak hand. Use a 360 degree grip style. This will control the recoil to avoid unintentionally pulling the trigger a second time.
            This one time I dropped the trigger pull weight down under 1lb with my 40 cal CZ TS. The kick from the gun was enough for me to tap the trigger a second time.
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            • #7
              NewGuy1911
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 539

              "How do you hold the trigger when you shoot?
              Do you trap the trigger to the rear and reset the sear as the sights are coming back onto target? or do you have your finger fly off of the trigger?"

              Is this the recommended practice?
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              • #8
                hermosabeach
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 19849

                Lots of videos and articles on trigger reset.

                When you shoot, you trap the trigger to the rear.
                The gun then cycles.
                The shooter then lets the trigger slowly move forward by moving the trigger finger slowly.

                When the trigger resets, that is engages the sear(as heard & Felt by a click) the shooter can then apply pressure to fire the next shot.

                The finger never loses contact with the trigger.

                This allows for a 2nd shot that has the shortest trigger pull and lightest trigger pull.
                Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                • #9
                  hermosabeach
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19849





                  Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                  Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                  Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                  Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                  (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                  • #10
                    9mmepiphany
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 8075

                    Since it isn't happening all the time, it does sound like you are getting trigger bounce. That is you aren't controlling the movement of the trigger after it releases the sear and your finger is bouncing against the trigger, when it returns from muzzle raise, enough to trigger the second shots

                    Originally posted by NewGuy1911
                    Originally posted by hermosabeach
                    "How do you hold the trigger when you shoot?
                    Do you trap the trigger to the rear and reset the sear as the sights are coming back onto target? or do you have your finger fly off of the trigger?"
                    Is this the recommended practice?
                    Trigger Control is a progression, this is the second level.

                    It teaches the shooter follow through (not to release the trigger), how to find the reset point, and how far the trigger finger needs to move to reset the trigger for the next shot. It is commonly referred to as Resetting the Trigger in Series (w/the sights coming back on target)

                    The third level is Resetting the Trigger in Parallel (w/the muzzle rise)
                    The forth level is learning to Prep the Trigger
                    The fifth level is letting the subconscious take over
                    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                    • #11
                      Derek L
                      Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 116

                      Thanks for the info guys. Trigger bounce was my issue.

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