Proof of Residency

[halifax]

I'm pretty certain state law requires that you notifiy DMV within 10 days of a change of address when you move. So, might as well just get it over with.

From DMV website

"When you move, you must give DMV your new address within 10 days."

[Mike's Custom]

Proof of residency has to match your DL or ID. Your DL/ID may not have the correct address on the face but you must have a address change with the DMV and the address must be changed manually on the DROS so it is the current correct address on the POR.

[jimmerjammermrk]

Proof of residency has to match your DL or ID.

So many people are saying this, but it seems to contradict the DOJ. Seems like there is a lot of confusion in general on this issue, and that a lot of dealers are requiring more than necessary.

[kpw001]

don't worry about it, I was in the same position when i DROS'ed my frist gun. They just took the address from my DL even though my utility bill had my apartment address. if you want you can always take your apartment lease and a utility bill but thats overkill.

[Mike's Custom]

So many people are saying this, but it seems to contradict the DOJ. Seems like there is a lot of confusion in general on this issue, and that a lot of dealers are requiring more than necessary.

The PoR address must match the ID address. What is hard about that? If your CA DL or ID address is different then the PoR then you must ahve the correct address on the back of the license or on the DMV attachment. When the ID is scanned by the FFL the incorrect address will show in the address blank. The FFL MUST type in the correct address into this window as well as ZIP code. The FFL then makes a copy of the IDs face and the back of the ID with the corrected address. The PoR address must be the same as the address on the DROS and the DROS must contain your correct address.

[Coda]

sort of a related question: I know they want my address so they can confiscate my firearms later and so they can track me down if my firearm was involved in a crime (which will never happen), but will the DOJ send me mail or anything concerning my firearm?

[The SoCal Gunner]

The PoR address must match the ID address. What is hard about that? If your CA DL or ID address is different then the PoR then you must ahve the correct address on the back of the license or on the DMV attachment. When the ID is scanned by the FFL the incorrect address will show in the address blank. The FFL MUST type in the correct address into this window as well as ZIP code. The FFL then makes a copy of the IDs face and the back of the ID with the corrected address. The PoR address must be the same as the address on the DROS and the DROS must contain your correct address.

It's hard because that isn't what the DOJ faqs state, it isn't what is required, but it is what some FFLs are saying.

If you take the time to read the faqs, nowhere does it say that the DL address must match the POR address but only that the address you declare on the DROS form must either match the DL OR the POR.

Some people have PO Boxes on their DL in which case they need to declare on the DROS the address on their POR.

Others, like college students for example, have their parent's home address on their DL (which they consider their home) but have a utility bill for an apartment they are sharing.

[barrykay]

The PoR address must match the ID address. What is hard about that? If your CA DL or ID address is different then the PoR then you must ahve the correct address on the back of the license or on the DMV attachment. When the ID is scanned by the FFL the incorrect address will show in the address blank. The FFL MUST type in the correct address into this window as well as ZIP code. The FFL then makes a copy of the IDs face and the back of the ID with the corrected address. The PoR address must be the same as the address on the DROS and the DROS must contain your correct address.

MORE FUD and from a "Sr." Member at that

[jimmerjammermrk]

It's hard because that isn't what the DOJ faqs state, it isn't what is required, but it is what some FFLs are saying.

Exactly.

[Knight]

Others, like college students for example, have their parent's home address on their DL (which they consider their home) but have a utility bill for an apartment they are sharing.

This a potential issue for most college students trying to buy a firearm. I've had problems in the past with this. I eventually just changed the address on my DL to my apartment so I wouldn't have to deal with being hassled. Might be something to consider if this handgun purchase won't be your last . . .

[mymonkeyman]

Change of address online does not cost anything but you really won't get anything to print out and you won't receive a new DL until your current one is due to expire which is why it is such a hassle when a FFL doesn't accept a proof of residency that doesn't match the DL.

DMV says you could just write your new address on a piece of paper and sign it but some FFLs want the brown card which means you need to go to the DMV in person.

To get the brown card all you need to do is either fill out the change of address form at the DMV or tell them you already changed your address online and just want the brown card.

FFLs vary wildly on what they accept. Going to the DMV to get the brown card is very easy, you don't even have to wait in line, the front "handler" person can give you the stamped card. However, some FFLs, going one step beyond the craziness of requiring matching ID & proof of residence, do not accept these cards because, they are essentially bull-crap for the purpose of proof because they don't check what you write down on the card matches the change of address form you submit. These crazy FFLs make you spend $5, wait in the longer line for the DMV to turn in a form requesting your driver's license record, which will also show your current residential address. Of course, this form won't show the new address when you turn in the change of address form, so either you have to make 2 trips to the DMV (double the fun!) or do it online first, wait a few days, then come in, turn in a paper change of address form to get a brown card, and then ask for a printed driver's record and pay $5.

[The SoCal Gunner]

FFLs vary wildly on what they accept. Going to the DMV to get the brown card is very easy, you don't even have to wait in line, the front "handler" person can give you the stamped card. However, some FFLs, going one step beyond the craziness of requiring matching ID & proof of residence, do not accept these cards because, they are essentially bull-crap for the purpose of proof because they don't check what you write down on the card matches the change of address form you submit. These crazy FFLs make you spend $5, wait in the longer line for the DMV to turn in a form requesting your driver's license record, which will also show your current residential address. Of course, this form won't show the new address when you turn in the change of address form, so either you have to make 2 trips to the DMV (double the fun!) or do it online first, wait a few days, then come in, turn in a paper change of address form to get a brown card, and then ask for a printed driver's record and pay $5.

I'm glad I never had to do what you just explained. I did, for my most recent purchase, travel a good distance to my nearest DMV to get the brown card because the FFL wanted it. In this case I ordered the gun and had it sent to him so I didn't want to cause any more grief or delay for either of us.

[SanSacto]

My CA drivers license shows my previous address in northern Cali. I have my new address permanently handwritten on the back under address change. I also show for my current address DMV registration, insurance, voter registration. It has worked on 3 DROSs so far.

[Mike's Custom]

My CA drivers license shows my previous address in northern Cali. I have my new address permanently handwritten on the back under address change. I also show for my current address DMV registration, insurance, voter registration. It has worked on 3 DROSs so far.

As it should. The FFL has to change the address field on the DROS after he scans your license. Then, your ID address writen on the back, which the FFL must make a copy of along with your PoR with that same addy. Done. Techniclly you are supposed to actually change your address with the DMV and using the card or the space on the back of the ID for the new addy change but the FFL has no way of knowing that you actually did do it.

[jimmerjammermrk]

Techniclly you are supposed to actually change your address with the DMV and using the card or the space on the back of the ID for the new addy change but the FFL has no way of knowing that you actually did do it.

In order to purchase a handgun? Where are you getting this information?