I need help choosing a 9. I love the simplicity of the Glock but I also love how the 92FS looks. I've been looking around at Glock 17 prices and I know how much they go for but how much does a 92FS go for in the Bay? To me there's nothing more simple and easy to work with (as far as semi autos go) than a G17, especially during an unfortunate incident of a home invasion. On the other hand I have 2 kids so the multiple safeties on the Beretta are appealing as well. I'm not knocking the Glock but it seems like everyone and their Mamma has one. Especially in my age group (I'm 26). Then again everyone has one for a reason.. they're great guns. Obviously I'm torn between the two so I'm looking for help to sway me one way or the other. What do you guys consider the pros and cons of each?
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Both are nice, but I'm partial to the Glock. Many people say the Beretta is the "easiest" gun to shoot.... feels natural for a lot of folks. I really prefer the Glock myself; not a huge Beretta fan. I do own H&K, SIG, KelTec, Smith and Ruger handguns besides the Glocks, so I'm not a G-kool aid drinker either. -
Everyone and their mom has a G17 cuz they're that good. Beretta's 92FS is also a great gun, but for some reason not all that popular. The 92FS will have one of the smoothest actions around, racking the 92FS is like sliding two butter coated glass panes together. Absolute slickness. On the other hand, I got rid of my 92FS for a few reasons.
Their backwards safety system. I'm used to 1911s, so Up should be safe, down should be fire. Beretta's gone done it the opposite, down to safe, up to fire. Plus the fact that it's frame mounted poses an obstruction to chamber checking. Careful not to decock that gun while chamber checking. Not to also forget the very, very long double action trigger. A D-spring will help some lighten the weight, but that first DA stroke is not pleasant.
Otherwise it's accurate, great looking and very fun to shoot. The Glock will be plain jane, simple, reliable, durable and ugly. But, the trigger can be lightened, it has a very short slack, and reset. The grip angle is bothersome to some, but it's an exaggerated complaint. The trigger is mushy and stacks out of the box, but for litterally under $20, you can significantly lighten the pull with a 3.5# connector, competition springs for the trigger, striker and plunger, and polish the surfaces yourself.
Detail stripping the Glock is a breeze compared to the 92FS. If you do detail strip the 92FS, mind the sear spring. It's a truly PITA to get back in.
I vote for the G17, but.. you really cant go wrong.
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I have a Glock 19 & 26. Instead of a 17 I got a Beretta 92FS INOX. It's a beautiful gun...but...I only have it because it looks good. I prefer the Glock 17 and plan on getting one.
Get the Glock 17.Comment
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Both are nice so shoot both and grab the one that feels best to you.
As far as safety goes a quick opening pistol safe next to the bed is a good bet.
When I was using my G19 as a "bedside" gun in my night stand with kids in the house, I just kept the slide off the frame. With practice you can put it back together in the dark faster than you may think.sigpicComment
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Do you like plastic or steel?
Do you prefer one grip style over the other?Comment
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Under stress will you flip the switch(off safe). How many mags do you want Beretta mags 40-50$ Glock mags 20-25$ will the mag work in your back up. Px compact ????? Glock 26 yup slam it home. Dont like the sights on your Beretta,gunsmith here we come. Glock, off to the cop-shop (where I live) 5 min swap. If something were to break Beretta,once again gunsmith. Glock 5/32" punch and 5 mins to switch out part and then your rockin' and rollin'. I own both and like one of the other post said Beretta is smooth but K.I.S.S. no B.S. no flip flap all buisness.There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
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If you do a search you will find that there is a thread with this very same topic. I remember it going to over 10 pages in length! Very disputed.Comment
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I've shot both, only broke one. It was the Beretta, cracked locking lug. FAIL! Beretta USA rep. acted like I was on crack when I tried to explain my issue. Turns out this is a known/common issue.
GLOCK 17 FTW!
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All very good points. I've never held a Beretta but the G17 feels nice in my hands. I like that Glocks are simple to detail strip but I enjoy the challenge of taking things apart and trying to figure out why the hell it was so easy to take apart and so damn hard to put back together lol. I do plan on getting a pistol safe for my nightstand so I guess the external safety point is moot.
What do you guys mean when you say the Beretta is smooth? Smooth to rack the slide or just plain smooth to shoot? I actually like long trigger pulls. For some reason I feel like I'm more in control that way. I know they're just 9's so kick back isn't a big issue but out of curiosity which one has less recoil? I'm assuming the Beretta because it's heavier. I think in a stressful panic situation the last thing I'd be worried about is recoil but I'd like to get my follow up shots as accurate and quick as possible especially seeing that a 9 is all I'd be working w/. I have a couple of rifles in 7.62x 39 but I wouldn't use that in the house.Comment
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I perfer the Glock Model 17 over the Beretta Model 92FS.
For me the Glock could take more abuse and is more reliable than the Beretta.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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Recoil is subjective between the two, although the 92FS is all metal, the frame is alloy so it's similar in weight to a Glock. The Glock has a lower bore axis to the Beretta, so it'll help a little bit in muzzle rise.What do you guys mean when you say the Beretta is smooth? Smooth to rack the slide or just plain smooth to shoot? I actually like long trigger pulls. For some reason I feel like I'm more in control that way. I know they're just 9's so kick back isn't a big issue but out of curiosity which one has less recoil? I'm assuming the Beretta because it's heavier. I think in a stressful panic situation the last thing I'd be worried about is recoil but I'd like to get my follow up shots as accurate and quick as possible especially seeing that a 9 is all I'd be working w/. I have a couple of rifles in 7.62x 39 but I wouldn't use that in the house.
You also mentioned quick follow up shots. The short reset is very favorable to shooting controlled pairs. It'll require more consistant practice to shoot pairs on guns with long resets such as the USP, 92FS, SIG P-series or all other DA/SA guns. Starting out, if you shoot a pair with the 92FS, you might experience trigger freeze, or not releasing the trigger far enough to the reset point. It'll take more patience and training to prep the trigger through each shot instead of slapping the length of the slack to break each shot.
Just something else to consider.Comment
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