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  • Darryl Licht
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Dec 2012
    • 2259

    +P Ammo in a Glock 17?

    This thread is intended for knowledgeable responses from Glock owners or others versed in all things ammo.
    No Glock haters please.


    I wanted to get a new box of HD ammo the other day (my last box of HD ammo is 15 yrs old), and a LGS sold me Hornady Critical Duty 9mm +P 135 grain.
    I normally shoot 124 gr. 115 for plinking.

    Is +P 135 gr. too much for my Glock 17?

    I was going to take it out to shoot a mag or two and see how they feed/fire, but I am finding conflicting info all over the interwebs.

    What do y'all think?
    Last edited by Darryl Licht; 10-17-2013, 2:08 AM.
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  • #2
    North Bay Guy
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1230

    I have fired +P ammo in my G17, G19 and G22 many times. I've never fired the ammo you mentioned but I've fired a lot of Winchester PDX1, 9mm, 124gr and 147gr with out a problem. I've also fired Winchester PDX1, +P, 180gr and 165gr, .40S&W out of my G22, those ones really make my G22 bark. When I say a lot I mean 100 or so threw each gun. Enough to make sure they function well, which they did indeed. The Winchester PDX1, 124gr +P is extremely accurate. It's not top of the line but it inexpisive and has work very well in my experience. I know that's not what you're asking but yes Glocks can shoot +P ammo.
    Last edited by North Bay Guy; 10-17-2013, 4:50 AM.

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    • #3
      CK_32
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      • Sep 2010
      • 14369

      Glocks like most guns can handle +P just fine.

      A little more powder/pressure and stress on the gun but they are designed to last.

      Put a few boxes of chosen ammo through your gun to know POI and that your gun runs that particular ammo and have at it.

      And I'm sure your conflicting info was guys spouting kabooms. Which are supposedly so common but it's funny you only see the same 6 kabooms posted. Being so coming youd figure there would be more photos right

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      • #4
        003
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 3436

        Keep in mind that the Glock 17 was designed as a Military pistol. It was specifically designed to meet NATO spec. NATO spec 9mm ammunition is a bit hotter that SAMMI spec 9mm ammunition. NATO spec is very close to SAMMI spec +P. Glock endorses the use of all SAMMI and NATO spec ammunition, including +P.

        I have personally shot thousands of rounds of both NATO spec 9mm and Sammi +P in my 34. No issues of any kind.
        Last edited by 003; 10-17-2013, 9:58 AM.

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        • #5
          sjm9877
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 1182

          Don't do it, the Glock will blow up!!!

          The only problem I've had is when reloading cases that were fired with hot loads thru a Glock barrel. I've had a few of them rupture the next time out.

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          • #6
            TanksEcho
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 294

            Taken from the FAQs on Glock ID where Glock responded to a question about using +p and +p+ "Glock suggests using ammunition that is manufactured and meets SAAMI or industry specifications. If you are not sure the ammunition brand or type you choose is safe for use, call the ammunition manufacturer and ask if the product meets SAAMI guidelines before using it in you firearm. Some +P ammunition meets these guidelines, +P+ normally does not. This ammunition may generate a higher pressure over the standard loadings, and may shorten the component life of your firearm. "

            Hope this clears up your question.

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            • #7
              Shenaniguns
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 6158

              Originally posted by Darryl Licht
              This thread is intended for knowledgeable responses from Glock owners or others versed in all things ammo.
              No Glock haters please.


              I wanted to get a new box of HD ammo the other day (my last box of HD ammo is 15 yrs old), and a LGS sold me Hornady Critical Duty 9mm +P 135 grain.
              I normally shoot 124 gr. 115 for plinking.

              Is +P 135 gr. too much for my Glock 17?

              I was going to take it out to shoot a mag or two and see how they feed/fire, but I am finding conflicting info all over the interwebs.

              What do y'all think?

              As a Glock owner since the 90's with tens of thousands of rounds experience, I will tell you it's 100% fine with a properly functioning 9mm Glock. Hell I have a few mags of HST in 147gr +P loaded up.
              My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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              • #8
                Shenaniguns
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2006
                • 6158

                Originally posted by sjm9877
                Don't do it, the Glock will blow up!!!

                The only problem I've had is when reloading cases that were fired with hot loads thru a Glock barrel. I've had a few of them rupture the next time out.

                Sounds like your reloading problem
                My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                • #9
                  19K
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 3621

                  I don't know of any company that promites the use of +P+ since, as far as I know, there is no standardization of +P+.

                  You will feel the recoil difference but it should be fine.

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                  • #10
                    Ronin2
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 5563

                    The Glock is a plastic gun designed to allow terrorists to sneak them thru airport metal detectors. Do not use +P ammo in plastic guns!

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                    • #11
                      autoduel
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 1080

                      Originally posted by sjm9877
                      Don't do it, the Glock will blow up!!!

                      The only problem I've had is when reloading cases that were fired with hot loads thru a Glock barrel. I've had a few of them rupture the next time out.
                      Originally posted by Shenaniguns
                      Sounds like your reloading problem
                      Don't discount that early unsupported Glock chambers cause case bulging with hot loads. Resizing a bulged case work hardens it and can cause it to crack or rupture much sooner than a non bulged case.
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                      • #12
                        ZombieTactics
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 3691

                        Originally posted by TanksEcho
                        ... "Glock suggests using ammunition that is manufactured and meets SAAMI or industry specifications. If you are not sure the ammunition brand or type you choose is safe for use, call the ammunition manufacturer and ask if the product meets SAAMI guidelines before using it in you firearm. Some +P ammunition meets these guidelines, +P+ normally does not. This ammunition may generate a higher pressure over the standard loadings, and may shorten the component life of your firearm. " ...
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                        Essentially the same info conveyed when I took the armorer's class.

                        I would trust any name-brand, factory-manufactured +P ammo in a Glock. Even most (name-brand, factory-manufactured) +P+ is probably fine.

                        What is scary is using any +P+ ammo from questionable sources, including boutique brands and custom hand-loads.
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                        • #13
                          Shenaniguns
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 6158

                          Originally posted by autoduel
                          Don't discount that early unsupported Glock chambers cause case bulging with hot loads. Resizing a bulged case work hardens it and can cause it to crack or rupture much sooner than a non bulged case.

                          9mm Glocks have never been known for this issue since the dozen I've owned since 1998, and the newest Glocks have pretty tight chambers.
                          My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                          • #14
                            sjm9877
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1182

                            Not a reloading problem. It's a Glock chamber issue.

                            Glock fanboys can't handle facts.

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                            • #15
                              Shenaniguns
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 6158

                              Originally posted by sjm9877
                              Not a reloading problem. It's a Glock chamber issue.

                              Glock fanboys can't handle facts.

                              Regurgitating 15 year old info, get with the times clown...
                              My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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