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  • #16
    ZombieTactics
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 3691

    Just as an aside, almost all of the LE trade-in Glock are likely refurbished to spec by Glock.

    What this means is that you can get a Glock which works-like-new, even though it may not be as 100% shiny and brand-new looking.

    I'm to the point where I don't even consider buying a new Glock, if the same model is available as a LE trade-in.
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    • #17
      CV62
      Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 195

      Originally posted by hermosabeach
      CV62-
      Take a look at the Deals, Slaes and coupon sub forum...

      There are a few threads on used Glocks

      J&G Sales has them but another place has them cheaper....

      Call your FFL and verify what they will charge for the deal.
      Call and buy one from the store of your choice. Email the place you purchased the gun from and CC your FFL.

      The FFL can then send a copy of the license to the selling dealer and ship it to them....
      Appreciate the heads up. Thanks
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      • #18
        kellyhachihachi
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 856

        I was talking to a LEO and he mentioned buying a Police trade-in, he said "its a pretty good deal, they come with the hi-cap mags and night sights" i thought you had to be LE or military to buy one? and im confused why he mentioned the hi-caps when I cant have one?

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        • #19
          CK_32
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2010
          • 14369

          Kelly: Most LEO/Mil have no clue on legalities when it comes to guns.

          I have a lot of my military and Cop buddies that come through my work and ask me basic gun advice and questions. Thats why its funny when guy spout they had service time to justify their knowledge.

          Most service members don't even know what ammo they shoot. So they know is its a M4 and shoots 5.56. To them it's just a job not a passion like most of us on here.

          But you can buy trade ins. Most come with no mags for that reason. Some come with 10 round replacements but usually not. It's just hard to find trade ins for a good price or at all. Cause only a few dealers sell trade ins and half that do charge more than they are worth because of it.

          There should be a few dealers up by you tho dude. Keep an eye out if you see any. They should be priced around $250.


          Edit:There fixed it
          Last edited by CK_32; 10-17-2013, 2:27 PM.
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          • #20
            de1911
            Junior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2011
            • 66

            Glock likes to have a large market of LEO trade ins available for purchase. During the Clinton AWB they ramped this up to get a huge inventory of preban magazines available for civilians (outside of CA of course). I think the reasons now are just to make sure their LE clients have the latest and greatest and aren't persuaded to get new models from another manufacturer.

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            • #21
              kmca
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 2371

              I think they get replaced, not from wear, but to avoid corrosion

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              • #22
                Ronin2
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 5563

                Its called "planned obsolescence". Building something so good that you don't need to replace it for a long time is counter productive to maximizing revenues and profits.

                There are two ways you do this in the handgun world to increase revenues and profits:

                1) You come out with a new version of the same basic product and push it on your markets, while phasing out production of the old model. Glock has done that here.

                2) You bring out a large number of variations of the same product to appeal to a broader spectrum of the market. SiG Sauer has been good at that as of late.

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                • #23
                  kellyhachihachi
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 856

                  Originally posted by CK_32

                  There should be a few dealers up by you tho dude. Keep an eye out if you see any. They should be priced around $250.
                  if that was twords me, i think ammo bro's is the closest and theirs are like 400 bucks last i checked. too late anyways, already got a new g17 haha

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                  • #24
                    sigfan91
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 10098

                    Another thing is the marketing dollars of manufacturers.

                    Someone comes up with a new design and wants to see market penetration. The company will market it to various police agencies, often at a huge discount. Then it can come out and say the product is endorsed by so and so.

                    S&W wants to see market penetration for its M&P. It offers a huge discount to xxPD to trade in existing Glock/Sig for the new M&P. Next round, Glock offers a huge discount on the Gen4s for the said PD to trade in its M&Ps. And the cycle goes round and round.

                    Agencies have equipment budget that they have to use up, lest they lose it. And no one likes to lose money. Companies want market share. Savvy gun owners can get nice discounts on trade-ins. Tax payers lose.

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                    • #25
                      tonyxcom
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 6397

                      Read the book about Glock. They've been known to trade new guns for used guns (even Glocks) straight across at no cost to the department or agencies. They then make their money selling the used guns to the civilian market. And sometimes the used guns net them more money per unit anyway.

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                      • #26
                        deadcoyote
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4002

                        Originally posted by maxima
                        Just noticed that local gun stores and online dealers constantly have sizable quantities of police trade in Glocks: 17,22, etc.

                        I am wondering:

                        1. Since Glock is very tough and durable and barrel life can easily exceed 100,000 rds, what are the reasons to replace them?

                        2. AFAIK, most of the trade-ins are 3rd generation which came out in 1990s. I am under the impression that the round counter of department issued Glock is not high at all. Are those trade-ins no longer good for police work?

                        3. What pistols those agencies picked up to replace those Glocks?
                        I am an armorer for a small department which uses Glocks. Two things here, often you get offered insane deals, like "hey - give us your 3rd gen pistols and $100 each and we'll give you Gen 4's". The other issue is I know alot of agencies do not shoot much, but I still think this is largley a myth. Our individual officers put 1500-2500 rounds a year through their weapons. I have bought two Gen3 Glock 22 buy back guns from other agencies. One looked pretty much unused on the inside with a lot of holster wear and the other had shot springs and broken pins, was filthy and a lot of internal wear so it was obviuosly used a lot.
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                        • #27
                          Ronin2
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 5563

                          Originally posted by deadcoyote
                          One looked pretty much unused on the inside with a lot of holster wear .
                          That is the predominant condition of most police trade in's. I bought a couple SiG's that way.... holster wear(SiG charged me $99 for a slide refinish) and absolutely NO wear on the rails or internal workings of the gun.

                          Got the guns dirt cheap because most civilians shy away from a used gun with a worn finish...either because they assume it's worn out or because it isn't pretty. They do not understand... cops wear out their guns from the "outside in"... lol

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                          • #28
                            Lead Waster
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                            • Sep 2010
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                            Obviously because they want to put more guns into the hands of citizens!
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                            • #29
                              Lead Waster
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                              • Sep 2010
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                              Originally posted by tonyxcom
                              Read the book about Glock. They've been known to trade new guns for used guns (even Glocks) straight across at no cost to the department or agencies. They then make their money selling the used guns to the civilian market. And sometimes the used guns net them more money per unit anyway.
                              Huh? then why not just sell the new guns to the civilian market instead of losing on the deal by giving away new guns in exchange for old guns then selling the old guns? Obviously with Gen4s, you could only give them to LEO, but ignore the gen4/3 thing.
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                              • #30
                                tonyxcom
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 6397

                                Read the book and you will learn more about the inner workings of the gun industry and government contracts. But scenarios could include knowing that S&W or Sig is also trying to replace the Glocks for that department at $XXX per unit. So Glock offers to trade them straight up. Cost the department ZERO and Glock still makes money selling the used guns to a wholesaler for redistribution onto the civilian market.

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