Glock 19 or 23? Comp or not???

[C_1]

Haha.. No balls because of a 9mm instead of a 40sw cal? Thats a weird requirement/standard. Funny funny..

I never said that I couldn't handle a G23. Its only a 40 cal, and the bullet is just a lil bit bigger, and the recoil is snappier, but the 9mm can do about the same damage with hot loads.. Plus ammo is a lil cheaper.

I've shot four-fives and 44 mags before and its not a problem. But I feel that I am more accurate, and handle a 9 better, in situations where bullet placement and follow up shots are crucial.

The full size Glock 17 is classic, and shoots better, but I plan on getting a CCW permit, so I want this gun to be a lil more concealable. I know its not going to be my only gun or Glock. I might end up getting all 3 different sizes and in different calibers, but for now, just one.

I also want a 1911 style pistol and will probably get a Kimber, full or compact, stainless steel, .45acp of course. Then an AK47, AR15, Saiga, SU16CA, 10/22 or something. I want it all.. but I need to start off somewhere. A Glock 19 or 23 would be nice..

[Greg-Dawg]

G23 all the way!!!



If you're struggling with funds, then get a better job. Bigger bore will mean business and recoil is great.

[TonyKat]

2. G23 (40sw)

[Matt P]

I would enjoy understanding why some members here think that a 180 grain 40 S&W offers way more performance over say a 147 grain 9mm?
For that 40 or so more grain weight difference comes substantial more recoil, or muzzle flip. This is why .40 and .45 make major in IPSC, and why 9mm is considered a minor cartridge. Not that all should use this as a standard to judge a cartridge by. I just state it as it lends some credibility to 9mm being lighter recoiling.

I certainly understand many of you handle .40 fine.

Just why do you think .40 is a better cartridge, or the Glock 23 better?

If accuracy, and the ability to get many accurate well placed shots stop a threat, why not use 9mm?

The FBI standard, which came after the Miami shootout, really lent to the popularity of .40. So many LE agencies then defined 40 as the only cartridge for them.

Through the advances in modern techniques of bullet design and manufacture, you now see 9mm in its various self defense types, much more effective. There no longer exists such a huge difference in reliable performance.

I carry a 5.7. Why? magnificent round capacity, along with extreme light recoil. I like bullets that move very fast, along with light jackets designed to dump all their energy in contact with soft tissue. It will always be my opinion accuracy and quick well placed shots stops a threat. The FN allows me to do so with the greatest of ease.

So many seem to choose caliber based on, "Well, thats what the Police carry" attitude.

Keep in mind, LE Agencies take a wide range of things in consideration when choosing a cartridge. Most, seem to only use the FBI findings as the status quo.

Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand why you think 40 is better then 9mm......Matt

[uscbigdawg]

I carry a 9 instead of a 40 'cause well...I know how to shoot.

Rich