PPT frame only...?

[Bad Caselaw]

So I will be PPT'ing a few Gen4 Glocks and I would like to avoid the Store employees from fooling with then while they are in custody.

If I can't lock the cases (or the store will cut them if I do), and the Govt considers the frame the firearm...

...Can I PPT/DROS the frame only?

And, if I need an operating weapon to preform a test, could I disassemble the pistol afterward and just leave the frame for the PPT/DROS?


TIA,


Caselaw

[SNCaliber]

I believe you can, recently did a PPT where the buyer did just that

[Cyc Wid It]

You are not supposed to, unless the dealer (or you) has a gun of the exact same model and make to perform the safe handling demo.

You could disassemble the gun if the shop will let you. And yes, they will cut any locks in case of audit.

[redcliff]

Why not just stick cable locks through the action? They only need to get into the case to verify serial numbers during an audit, correct?

[Cyc Wid It]

That's probably fine, although some shops might not like it for whatever reason - I should have specified case locks.

[BigPimping]

I tried that exact same thing at Tracy Rifle. They would not allow me to lock the case or just leave the lower. That is the store policy.

[jpx0123]

well if its a PPT, and it is ok to transfer just the serial lower part of the glock.. why not just have the slides taken off before entering the store to start the transfer. they couldn't have a problem with that could they?

[tonyxcom]

I have on several occasions used the cable lock through the magwell ejection port.

[lordres]

Are they custom guns? I can't imagine anyone wanting to fool around with a stock glock.

[JohnAmo2011]

^+1 guns are not fragile tools, especially glocks

[Lead Waster]

Why not just stick cable locks through the action? They only need to get into the case to verify serial numbers during an audit, correct?

Yep, came to say this. Also, trigger locks are good too. At least it makes it hard for looky-loos to play with the gun. Or zip ties.

But honestly, I'm guessing gun store employees are zero interest in playing with Glocks.

[drifter2be]

well if its a PPT, and it is ok to transfer just the serial lower part of the glock.. why not just have the slides taken off before entering the store to start the transfer. they couldn't have a problem with that could they?

This was my first thought when I read the OP. Bring the slides back with you when you come to pick up for the safe handling demo.

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[Bad Caselaw]

This was my first thought when I read the OP. Bring the slides back with you when you come to pick up for the safe handling demo.

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I think I'll swing by the store, check out some rifles before the impending Tyranny, and try to set up exactly that.


Thanks,




Caselaw

[drifter2be]

Absolute worst case scenario, if none of the local stores will allow you to do things that way, jump on Gunbroker and use the FFL finder to locate a private (kitchen table) FFL dealer and arrange with them to do the PPT through them.

If going through a gun store or one of the bigger outlets like Turner's or Ammo Bros I would make any arrangement through a manager rather than one of the "gun experts" working the counter, just to save yourself the frustration when you get there to do the transfer.

[CrippledPidgeon]

I tried that exact same thing at Tracy Rifle. They would not allow me to lock the case or just leave the lower. That is the store policy.

You can't lock the case because if the store gets audited during the 10 day period, they need access to the actual firearm so the serial can be verified against the books. And since they're not supposed to DROS frames only, they probably don't want to get asked difficult questions about why there's only a frame in the box.

Are they custom guns? I can't imagine anyone wanting to fool around with a stock glock.

Same here. Glocks are boring. Don't get me wrong, I carried one for several years, but I have absolutely no interest in seeing or playing with other peoples' Glocks unless they did some serious (not just a ghost connector) custom work to it, and of course, if I had their permission.