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  • Rob454
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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    • Feb 2006
    • 11254

    My wifes son

    Can I gift a gun to my wifes son? Hes not adopted by me. is that still considered a family transfer or a person to person?
    thanx
    Rob
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    5150Marcelo
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2008
    • 7681

    nope. He has to look like you.
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    • #3
      thomasanelson
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1209

      I think that would make it a private party transfer, but you could give it to your wife and have her give it to your stepson.

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      • #4
        ke6guj
        Moderator
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        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        what type of gun, longgun or handgun? Different procedures needed depending on the type?
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

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        • #5
          Vin496
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2008
          • 8804

          Originally posted by Rob454
          Can I gift a gun to my wifes son? Hes not adopted by me. is that still considered a family transfer or a person to person?
          thanx
          Rob
          If your trying to do an intra familiar transfer, then no. Has to be blood relation. Parent to Children, Grandparents to Children or vice versa, but not sibling to sibling.

          Like was said though, you could give it to your Wife, then she can transfer it to him.
          I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

          and

          If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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          • #6
            TonyM
            In Memoriam
            • Oct 2005
            • 3071

            Originally posted by Vin496
            Like was said though, you could give it to your Wife, then she can transfer it to him.
            Might as well just PPT to the kid, cause Husband <-> Wife still needs a PPT. Only case I can think of that would make this better than PPT to the kid directly is if the kid is over 18, but under 21.
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            Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
            Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30242

              Originally posted by TonyM
              Might as well just PPT to the kid, cause Husband <-> Wife still needs a PPT. Only case I can think of that would make this better than PPT to the kid directly is if the kid is over 18, but under 21.
              Husband <-> Wife does not need a PPT.

              Need to send in form & fee within 30 days of handgun changing ownership.
              Wait for confirmation letter from CA DOJ, wife then give handgun to son. Son fills out form & sends in fee.

              All parties involved in recieving the handgun by gift (ie. wife/son) need to have a HSC prior to taking possession of the handgun.
              Last edited by Quiet; 06-17-2008, 6:15 PM.
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              • #8
                TonyM
                In Memoriam
                • Oct 2005
                • 3071

                Originally posted by Quiet
                Husband <-> Wife does not need a PPT.
                Need to send in form & fee within 30 days of handgun changing ownership.
                Wait for confirmation letter from CA DOJ, wife then give handgun to son. Son fills out form & sends in fee.
                Good to know. All this time I thought blood relatives up and down the chain were the only way to use the "INTRA-FAMILIAL HANDGUN TRANSACTION", but Google shows you are right.

                I could have been using that to get more than 1 per month all that time before I got my COE and C&R.
                Disenfranchised NRA Benefactor Life Member.

                Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
                Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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                • #9
                  Mssr. Eleganté
                  Blue Blaze Irregular
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 10401

                  But still...the husband to wife transfer is going to cost $19 for the OpLaw/Intra-familial form and then the wife to son transfer is going to cost another $19 for the OpLaw/Intra-familial form.

                  That means you will be paying $38 when you could have just done a PPT for $35. And if the wife doesn't yet have an HSC then your looking at another $25.

                  And the DOJ is so backlogged processing OpLaw/Intra-familial form that if you send in both forms too close together there is a good chance that they will process them in the wrong order and screw up the registration.

                  So you aren't going to save any time either.

                  Just do a PPT at a gunshop.
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                  • #10
                    M. Sage
                    Moderator Emeritus
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 19759

                    Originally posted by Amendment II
                    But still...the husband to wife transfer is going to cost $19 for the OpLaw/Intra-familial form and then the wife to son transfer is going to cost another $19 for the OpLaw/Intra-familial form.

                    That means you will be paying $38 when you could have just done a PPT for $35. And if the wife doesn't yet have an HSC then your looking at another $25.

                    And the DOJ is so backlogged processing OpLaw/Intra-familial form that if you send in both forms too close together there is a good chance that they will process them in the wrong order and screw up the registration.

                    So you aren't going to save any time either.

                    Just do a PPT at a gunshop.
                    Sure you'll save time. Plus, you don't have to do the safe handling demo BS and you don't have to leave the gun to sit in limbo for ten days. Plus, it's only one trip to the gun store instead of two.

                    Just having the gun somewhere that isn't someone else's safe is worth it, IMO.
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                    • #11
                      Rob454
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11254

                      Originally posted by Quiet
                      Husband <-> Wife does not need a PPT.

                      Need to send in form & fee within 30 days of handgun changing ownership.
                      Wait for confirmation letter from CA DOJ, wife then give handgun to son. Son fills out form & sends in fee.

                      All parties involved in recieving the handgun by gift (ie. wife/son) need to have a HSC prior to taking possession of the handgun.

                      SWEET. I dont know many gun laws and the ones i know are the basics all the other ones i read by the time Im done my eyes are crossed and im drooling. im gonna get the forms and send them in


                      the gun in question is a 44 magnum handgun. I jsut dont shoot it really and he said he wanted to buy one but I talked him out of it planning on giving him this one.

                      thanx for the info
                      Rob

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                      • #12
                        donger
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1560

                        I don't see an area for the HSC number. Is an HSC card required for a intra-familial transfer?
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                        • #13
                          bwiese
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 27621

                          Originally posted by donger
                          I don't see an area for the HSC number. Is an HSC card required for a intra-familial transfer?
                          Yes, for IFTs PC 12078(c)(2)(B) requires the recipient to have an HSC card. This has been in place since 1 Jan 2003.

                          12078(c)(2)(A) requires filing of IFT form w/DOJ within 30 days.

                          Bill Wiese
                          San Jose, CA

                          CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                          • #14
                            donger
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1560

                            Thanks Bill.
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