92FS what happened?

[dre147]

I was at the range today and after about 100 rds, I had inserted a new mag into an open slide, racked it and it just stuck, round was in the mag fine. I then pushed the slide forward and it closed.

I think maybe recoil spring is too old, pistol is from 1994 and has thousands of rounds thru it maybe 6-8k. Also Im using original 15 rd mags with 10 rds loaded, maybe mag spring is old too? Im pretty sure I need to replace some parts but not sure what.

Any ideas on what caused this? I have ran the pistol much dirtier and no problem.

Thanks in advance

[hermosabeach]

try a new / different mag

It sounds like the gun thought an empty mag was still in the gun and lifting on the slide lock....

Bent lip maybe

[dre147]

try a new / different mag

It sounds like the gun thought an empty mag was still in the gun and lifting on the slide lock....

Bent lip maybe

Ill try that, I only had taken one mag this time. It happened when I tried inserting mag on open slide, when I racked a closed slide with the mag inside no problem.

Any parts I should replace tho it has alot of rounds through it.

The sights I would like to change out toe, maybe to some with bigger dots. I have the two dot sights and shooting against white I do great but shooting against a black I do terrible

[postal]

More importantly- factory ammo or reloads?

How many rounds through the gun estimated? You are probably overdue to change out the recoil spring- maybe the mainspring too.

Most of the time the problem you describe is ammo or mag issue though.

[dre147]

More importantly- factory ammo or reloads?

How many rounds through the gun estimated? You are probably overdue to change out the recoil spring- maybe the mainspring too.

Most of the time the problem you describe is ammo or mag issue though.

LAX reloads, but I have shot thousands of these and never had an issue. Ill check the mag to see if I see anything wrong with it. And will be on look out for a few re-builds as these are 15rd originals

[postal]

So... we cant completely rule out a problem with the ammo... It *should* be okay.... but...

Was this a new batch of reloads you picked up? or did you have a large quantity you've been using for a long time with good results, and this happened from ammo from that same batch?

I'm not familiar with beretta in particular, I'd do a quick google search on when springs should be replaced on it...


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Hold on a minute.... To clarify.... what you're saying happened.....

The slide was locked open.

Inserted a loaded mag.

Pulled the slide back to release it from lock, and it stuck at lock again?

If thats what happened, it isnt an ammo issue. Its a mag issue.

---first time I read the origional post, I thought you meant you had to push the slide closed because it didnt shut all the way- Like it fed the round into the chamber but didnt go all the way forward. --THAT-- is usually an ammo issue.

[swifty]

Cracked or damaged Locking Block?

[SilverTauron]

Magazine problem.I've got an old mag which will sometimes fail to lock back on empty,and its in need of a new spring.

[ILOVEGUNS916707415]

I really like the 92 FS for it's accuracy... but I really dislike their magazines. I've had problems with their magazines... maybe it's just my luck. So plus one on checking out a new magazine. =)

[dre147]

So... we cant completely rule out a problem with the ammo... It *should* be okay.... but...

Was this a new batch of reloads you picked up? or did you have a large quantity you've been using for a long time with good results, and this happened from ammo from that same batch?

I'm not familiar with beretta in particular, I'd do a quick google search on when springs should be replaced on it...


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Hold on a minute.... To clarify.... what you're saying happened.....

The slide was locked open.

Inserted a loaded mag.

Pulled the slide back to release it from lock, and it stuck at lock again?

If thats what happened, it isnt an ammo issue. Its a mag issue.

---first time I read the origional post, I thought you meant you had to push the slide closed because it didnt shut all the way- Like it fed the round into the chamber but didnt go all the way forward. --THAT-- is usually an ammo issue.

Ya the second thing you mentioned is what happened

[dre147]

Cracked or damaged Locking Block?

How would I see if this is the problem?


Ima try some new mags, but looking at the mag it happened with, it looks just fine other than dirty. Im pretty sure a new recoil spring wouldn't hurt though, should a 13 lb spring be fine?,

I have never had a problem with the slide not locking back. My dad has but he probably was riding the slide release...

[swifty]

How would I see if this is the problem?

Field strip and visually inspect. Look for any damage, physically check that it moves normally. The Locking Block is a "weak link", and intentionally so, it should fail first, preventing damage to the more expensive slide, barrel and frame.

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Looking at the round count, I would definitely replace the recoil spring.

[Mr. Beretta]

Mag problem.



Make sure rails are clean & well lubed.

Use factory ammo and a factory mag.

Good luck.

[SilverTauron]

How would I see if this is the problem?


Ima try some new mags, but looking at the mag it happened with, it looks just fine other than dirty. Im pretty sure a new recoil spring wouldn't hurt though, should a 13 lb spring be fine?,

I have never had a problem with the slide not locking back. My dad has but he probably was riding the slide release...

If the locking block fails, the slide becomes inoperative.

Swap magazines and see how she does on the next range outing.

[glock7]

I really like the 92 FS for it's accuracy... but I really dislike their magazines. I've had problems with their magazines... maybe it's just my luck. So plus one on checking out a new magazine. =)

their mags are horrible, i bought mec-gars and never looked back.