Glock 17 Gen 4 Trigger Questions

[Yerman]

Hey guys, I have a Glock 17 Gen 4 on the way the and first thing I want to do is ditch the crappy stock trigger. I have shot a lot of glocks and I always said that the first thing I would if I ever bought a glock is put in a better trigger.

I have been doing a lot of searching on the internet and came across all kinds of trigger kits, connectors, spring kits, etc.....a lot of recommendations and lot of people posting things like "just buy a ______ , it's the best and you won't be disappointed" but I am looking for a little more specific advice that I am having trouble finding.

Most descriptions don't describe how the trigger functions, they just list out a long list of features but never explain the feel of the trigger or how they reset.

Before I start, this is going to be a home defense and range pistol. No competitions and no carrying. (Yes, even though this will be used for home defense, I would like to improve the trigger)

Most important to me is the "slack" or "take-up" after a trigger reset. I really like 1911 style triggers and I just had a bunch of work done on my Sig to get rid of this. I would like the same thing with the glock trigger. Basically, if I break a shot and slowly move the trigger forward to reset, I would like to next shot to be right there...no slack to get the trigger slack out to take the next shot.

Second is the pre-travel. (I guess this is what you call it.) I am ok with and understand the safety with having a little travel to break the first shot. As long as it is smooth and breaks clean, I am ok with this. However, like I mentioned above, I would like zero slack for follow-up shots.

Please let me know what you recommend. Also, video's of the trigger pulls would be great. Thanks.

[CK_32]

IMO only thing to help a glock trigger is a 3.5 ghost.

Other than they it is what it is. There is after market trigger kits as in glock works and other but I've seen many threads or videos of them being nice and crisp for a slow fire range but have issues when they are used hard or not highly maintained. YMMV but again 3.5 ghost thats all unless its nothing more than a match/range gun.

[Yerman]

Thanks for the post. Does the Ghost trigger just smooth/lighten the trigger pull or does it have an impact on the trigger reset? I really want to eliminate the travel of the trigger after the trigger resets.

[tonyxcom]

You can't really get rid of the pre-travel in striker fired pistols because it is in that pre-travel that the striker block and other safeties are disengaged. In addition, in a Glock the last part of the travel is actually completing the "cocking" of the striker.

The 3.5 connectors lighten the pull but I have found they have made the trigger break a little mushy so you might need to experiment with a few to find the one that has the feel that you like.

I recently installed a Ghost Rocket connector which has a user filled trigger over travel stop but I am still fine tuning it. There is no over travel after the trigger breaks but I think the striker is riding the top of the sear and I am afraid this might cause light strikes. But I want to shoot it first before additional filing. My copy of the Rocket connector is also mushier than the standard Ghost 3.5 connector that it replaced.

You can also reduce the trigger weight by approximately 1/2lb with the Wolff Competition trigger spring.

That being said, any Glock that I carry uses completely stock triggers. I just polish them.

[CK_32]

Thanks for the post. Does the Ghost trigger just smooth/lighten the trigger pull or does it have an impact on the trigger reset? I really want to eliminate the travel of the trigger after the trigger resets.

It's been a while since I read fully on it but if I remember correctly its just a different angle in the metal part creating a different force of friction to release the trigger with less force applied.

[Speedpower]

Hey guys, I have a Glock 17 Gen 4 on the way the and first thing I want to do is ditch the crappy stock trigger. I have shot a lot of glocks and I always said that the first thing I would if I ever bought a glock is put in a better trigger.

I have been doing a lot of searching on the internet and came across all kinds of trigger kits, connectors, spring kits, etc.....a lot of recommendations and lot of people posting things like "just buy a ______ , it's the best and you won't be disappointed" but I am looking for a little more specific advice that I am having trouble finding.

Most descriptions don't describe how the trigger functions, they just list out a long list of features but never explain the feel of the trigger or how they reset.

Before I start, this is going to be a home defense and range pistol. No competitions and no carrying.

Most important to me is the "slack" or "take-up" after a trigger reset. I really like 1911 style triggers and I just had a bunch of work done on my Sig to get rid of this. I would like the same thing with the glock trigger. Basically, if I break a shot and slowly move the trigger forward to reset, I would like to next shot to be right there...no slack to get the trigger slack out to take the next shot.

Second is the pre-travel. (I guess this is what you call it.) I am ok with and understand the safety with having a little travel to break the first shot. As long as it is smooth and breaks clean, I am ok with this. However, like I mentioned above, I would like zero slack for follow-up shots.

Please let me know what you recommend. Also, video's of the trigger pulls would be great. Thanks.

If it is going to be use as a home defense gun then I suggest not to alter the trigger.

[sirgiles]

there is no way to make a glock or any striker fired pistol to even come close to feeling like a 1911 trigger.
it is what it is.

[5.56Geo]

This is what I would do if I were You; I would do a $0.25 trigger job and shoot 200 rounds through it before you spend any more money on it. I wouldn't be to aggressive on the trigger job, go online and do it correctly. The only thing that the $0.25 trigger job does is give it the "broken-in" feeling. I have several Glocks and every one of them felt a little different out of the box. I have a G26 that has the most awesome trigger out of the box and all I did was the $0.25 trigger job. At that point if it doesn't work then spend the money. That's my $0.02 FWIW.

[Lead Waster]

I honestly think that just shooting it a lot will get anyone "used to" the trigger. It's just the nature of the beast. Sure we all want light crisp triggers with no pretravel or overtravel. But if you can't have that, then just learn to shoot the long heavy not so crisp trigger....it will make you a better shot with the guns with light crisp triggers.

[RangemasterP226]

I carry a Glock everyday, I am a Glock Armorer. I own several different Glocks.

I love the "crappy stock trigger".

[vintagearms]

You cant eliminate pre-travel but you can lessen it to a desired level. The Vanek trigger bar accomplishes this. The "slack" has to be there to reset the striker. I use the Vanek trigger bar only combined with all stock parts (no need for 3.5 mushy reset) and lots of practice. This gives me a smooth and shorter trigger feel with the pronounced positive click of the reset.
Your not going to make a Glock trigger anywhere near a 1911 trigger without causing issues.

[Gutpile66]

I carry a Glock everyday, I am a Glock Armorer. I own several different Glocks.

I love the "crappy stock trigger".

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=256270&stc=1&d=1376199757

Full Point

[hermosabeach]

I switched from the 1911 plafform to the Glock

I now love the factory 5.5 pound or the - connector.

The trigger breaks the same each time
The reset is the same each time

My thoughts- Train with it before you buy any aftermarket parts.

[gregshin]

Stock glocks do not have a crappy tigger. Then gen4 glocks have a nice take up and very clean break. Better then the gen3s.

Shoot the gun stock and learn how reset the trigger as well. Imo stock glocks are the best except sights.

[gregshin]

Forgot to add I put a 3.5lb ghost connector once...that crap was mushy as hell on the take up.