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  • rbarker33
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 119

    Stumped on Identifying this 22 cal revolver

    I was helping the old man install a new gun safe and organize his guns a little bit and I ran across this little guy and am stumped on trying to identify it.

    It has probably been passed through 2 or 3 generators of family and no idea where it has originated. I seen some similar guns online called a Rohm R10, it looks close, but not exact.

    The only markings are the "puppy" logo on the grip, Made in Germany, Cal 22 short and a serial number.

    Thoughts?

    The next question is there any worth to it? Pops has asked me to thin out the heard a little bit and this one is on the list to get rid of. Not sure if there is much worth to it or if I should drop it off at the police station.
    Last edited by rbarker33; 09-04-2014, 7:55 PM.
  • #2
    BigL
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 678

    Its a puppy
    Originally posted by becciboo
    Why make it clear when there is an agency that can make up and enforce their own laws? Its one of those things where you need to make the personal decision as to whether you want to be right or free. Is it worth it to you?

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    • #3
      DT556
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2011
      • 3671

      Puppy has been used by several makers of small handguns. The one shown was made by Rohm.

      They were a machine tool maker that began making low dollar firearms of indifferent quality in the 1950s in Sontheim/Brensz. The most common brand used was RG (Rohm Gemeinschaft, or GmbH). These usually had pot metal frames, and a pot metal barrel with a steel liner. They did make a blank gun that was almost identical to the .22 revolver.

      The 1968 Gun Control Act blocked import into the US of guns of this nature, and some effort was made to shift production to the US. In 1986 they stopped production of firearms, and in 2010 left the gun making business entirely, selling their line to Umarex.

      Used by John Hinkley in his attempt to kill Pres. Reagan.

      Reliability of these has traditionally be extremely low, to the point of absurdity. Value of an RG in Good condition is about $50.

      The notation in the 2010 Standard Catalog of firearms is "About as crummy as it gets".

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      • #4
        savannah
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1142

        Here is another post about what looks to be the same gun on another forum.





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        • #5
          DT556
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2011
          • 3671

          Originally posted by savannah
          Here is another post about what looks to be the same gun on another forum.

          http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f...evolver-45152/
          Haha. That's where I got my info from too.

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          • #6
            appagohm
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1123

            Puppy has been used by several makers of small handguns. The one shown was made by Rohm.

            They were a machine tool maker that began making low dollar firearms of indifferent quality in the 1950s in Sontheim/Brensz. The most common brand used was RG (Rohm Gemeinschaft, or GmbH). These usually had pot metal frames, and a pot metal barrel with a steel liner. They did make a blank gun that was almost identical to the .22 revolver.

            The 1968 Gun Control Act blocked import into the US of guns of this nature, and some effort was made to shift production to the US. In 1986 they stopped production of firearms, and in 2010 left the gun making business entirely, selling their line to Umarex.

            Used by John Hinkley in his attempt to kill Pres. Reagan.

            Reliability of these has traditionally be extremely low, to the point of absurdity. Value of an RG in Good condition is about $50.

            The notation in the 2010 Standard Catalog of firearms is "About as crummy as it gets".


            Information from firearmtalks "C3shooter" (moderator)

            Hope this helps.
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            • #7
              appagohm
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1123

              LOL, darn was a bit late!!, The power of google.
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              sober people to own cars"

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              • #8
                rbarker33
                Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 119

                I had seen that posting too. My hesitation was that when you pull up a picture of an actual Rohm R10 there are a lot of small discrepancies. From what I read, there are a lot of manufactures of this type of "gun" Rohm being the most popular.

                This very well could have been a "knock-off" of a crappy gun. Just not much information out there.

                Now the question is to sell for a few bucks or turn it in for a gift card at the next gun buyback.

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                • #9
                  trigger945
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 5795

                  Originally posted by appagohm
                  Puppy has been used by several makers of small handguns. The one shown was made by Rohm.

                  They were a machine tool maker that began making low dollar firearms of indifferent quality in the 1950s in Sontheim/Brensz. The most common brand used was RG (Rohm Gemeinschaft, or GmbH). These usually had pot metal frames, and a pot metal barrel with a steel liner. They did make a blank gun that was almost identical to the .22 revolver.

                  The 1968 Gun Control Act blocked import into the US of guns of this nature, and some effort was made to shift production to the US. In 1986 they stopped production of firearms, and in 2010 left the gun making business entirely, selling their line to Umarex.

                  Used by John Hinkley in his attempt to kill Pres. Reagan.

                  Reliability of these has traditionally be extremely low, to the point of absurdity. Value of an RG in Good condition is about $50.

                  The notation in the 2010 Standard Catalog of firearms is "About as crummy as it gets".


                  Information from firearmtalks "C3shooter" (moderator)

                  Hope this helps.
                  Glad to see you did not pass the information off as coming from you. Very tempting as you would have sounded really knowledgeable. Seems like you learned well from your English 101 professor!

                  OP, are you not considering shooting it? If you do the gun buyback, I think you will get more than $50. But if it shoots, why not keep it? The challenge is finding .22 short ammo.

                  Good luck! Puppy looks cute.
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                  • #10
                    rbarker33
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 119

                    Originally posted by trigger945
                    Glad to see you did not pass the information off as coming from you. Very tempting as you would have sounded really knowledgeable. Seems like you learned well from your English 101 professor!

                    OP, are you not considering shooting it? If you do the gun buyback, I think you will get more than $50. But if it shoots, why not keep it? The challenge is finding .22 short ammo.

                    Good luck! Puppy looks cute.
                    Na it does not do much for me - I have some big hands and this is a small gun, I will probably end up putting it for sale in the classified section.

                    It did come with a brand new box of .22 short ammo that looks pretty good for their age. Have not decided if I want to clean it up and test fire or simply sell as is.

                    Thanks all for the feedback!

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                    • #11
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Rohm RG-10. Worth maybe $50. I have one and it's worthless for anything but snake shot.

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                      Last edited by JDay; 08-08-2013, 4:47 AM.
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                      • #12
                        saki302
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7187

                        Put it up on Calguns- there are folks here who collect Saturday night specials

                        These guns work for the most part, but have short service lives.

                        I repaired a .22 Clerke for a friend- the cylinder stop wears out after a couple hundred rounds (or less) if you fire in double action. Cocked carefully in single action, he may get more life out of the turd.

                        Rifling is shallow, but he seemed to (relatively) hit what he aimed at.

                        -Dave

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                        • #13
                          AJAX22
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                          • May 2006
                          • 14980

                          Rohm rg14 was the Hinckley gun (.22lr)

                          The rg10 is .22 short iirc
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                          • #14
                            rogervzv
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2087

                            RG guns were widely known as "Rotten Guns." This was the classic "Saturday Night Special."
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                            • #15
                              Socalman
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1339

                              Originally posted by rbarker33
                              I had seen that posting too. My hesitation was that when you pull up a picture of an actual Rohm R10 there are a lot of small discrepancies. From what I read, there are a lot of manufactures of this type of "gun" Rohm being the most popular.

                              This very well could have been a "knock-off" of a crappy gun. Just not much information out there.

                              Now the question is to sell for a few bucks or turn it in for a gift card at the next gun buyback.
                              Turn it in at the next buy back! Get the $100 and apply it to buying your new S&W or Glock or CZ or Ruger or <insert next gun here>.

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