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  • mbrown
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 128

    First Magnum Rounds

    This past memorial day weekend I had my first chance to fire 357 magnum rounds through my S&W 686 4". I've only owned it for a few months and up till now had only fired 38+P. In summary, I didn't find the recoil of the magnum rounds to be all that different than the 38+P. After reading about it I expected the magnum to be more uncomfortable than it was and I'm a smaller guy. The ammo I shot was Blazer. Maybe it's due to the S&W L-frame and the 4 inch barrel?
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    kurac
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 2917

    Get some Federal American Eagle .357 Ammo and you will feel it. I don't think that Blazer stuff is loaded to true .357 Magnum performance levels.
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    • #3
      BaronW
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 989

      I got some older american eagle high-velocity stuff and it makes a difference out of my 4" GP-100. I don't shoot too much of it lest I develop a bad flinch.
      I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

      WTB: Savage 99 SN#507612 (buying back grandpa's rifle)

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      • #4
        cactuspete
        Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 179

        The CCI Blazers are definitely on the light side. I've heard they are just a step up from .38+ specials. My first gun, a 4" 686 Plus, I started shooting .38 specials and CCI Blazer .357 mags - they were readily available and affordable from Big-5. Like you, I figured - the .357 mags aren't that big a deal. One day at the range I ran out of CCI Blazers. Bought a box of "real" .357 mags; forget what brand. Quite a difference! I've heard that the current standard .357 mag ammo is actually lighter then the original ammo when the round first came out back in the 1930s.

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        • #5
          BigRich
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2002
          • 788

          Try some Remington or Federal 125 gr. JHP "old style" loads. They will make an impression. Recoil rises to the abrupt level but it is not painful in the least. If you want to try some original level 357 mag loads try some Buffalo Bore 158 gr. stuff. http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunitio...s/357_158..jpg
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          • #6
            mbrown
            Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 128

            Thanks for the info on the Blazer ammo. I was wondering if that might be a factor. Blazer: the sissy magnums?
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            • #7
              Pugster
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 964

              I shot a full box of the Remington .357 in my snub (Ruger SP101). That stuff wrecked havoc on my hand

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              • #8
                Black Majik
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 9695

                Magtechs are also some pretty hot ammo.

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                • #9
                  FlyingPen
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 2377

                  Originally posted by Black Majik
                  Magtechs are also some pretty hot ammo.
                  Really? I always thought they were cheapo ammo on the level of WWB and Blazer Brass.

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                  • #10
                    Mr. Meeseeks
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2951

                    Originally posted by mbrown
                    In summary, I didn't find the recoil of the magnum rounds to be all that different than the 38+P. After reading about it I expected the magnum to be more uncomfortable than it was and I'm a smaller guy.
                    The 686 has some decent heft to it.

                    Try .357 in a sub size wheel gun with wood grips, like a Smith and Wesson 640 or even Ruger SP101.

                    Without a glove it gets pretty punishing , one time, a long session broke the skin on the web of my shooting hand.

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                    • #11
                      Knauga
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1383

                      Originally posted by BaronW
                      I got some older american eagle high-velocity stuff and it makes a difference out of my 4" GP-100. I don't shoot too much of it lest I develop a bad flinch.
                      Get a set of these and all of your worries of flinch will go away

                      I've put some pretty hot loads through my GP100 and it is smooth as silk with the Tamer's on.

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                      • #12
                        1911su16b870
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 7654

                        Originally posted by FlyingPen
                        Really? I always thought they were cheapo ammo on the level of WWB and Blazer Brass.
                        IMO Magtech are good rounds and hot in 357. I like their brass and find it good for reloading.
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                        • #13
                          Black Majik
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 9695

                          Originally posted by FlyingPen
                          Really? I always thought they were cheapo ammo on the level of WWB and Blazer Brass.
                          Oh, I meant loaded hot.

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                          • #14
                            cactuspete
                            Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 179

                            Like Knauga said, the big Hogue, in S&W's case, X-frame, grips are the way to go to take the sting out of the big magnums. I have them on both my 686 Plus' and 629 Classic. They make a big difference.

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