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  • zippo
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 1254

    Why Sig P6 have hook on hammer

    this may be the answer....
    ...Hope this puts the issue to rest... I've had a friend of mine, who's German, read the manual, that is in German, and this is what he said... The cocked hammer had the potential to accidentally release and hit the firing pin when dropped on the ground, an obvious danger to owner and bystander... so as a precaustion the hammer was skeletonized so that in the even it was dropped the hammer would "crumple" and absorb the shock, preventing accidental discharge... (copy)

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    leelaw
    Junior Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10445

    I was told that it was to alert the armorers that the gun was dropped and may need a good looking over.

    Take with a grain of salt.

    The video you posted looks convincing, but I'm skeptical of a tension seal on the hammer of a P6 which already had a friggen 20 pound trigger pull.
    Last edited by leelaw; 05-30-2008, 10:45 PM.

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    • #3
      RedDawn
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      • Dec 2007
      • 2234

      I'm skeptical as well, as the narrator did not attempt a demonstration of the break-away nature of the seal.
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      • #4
        wilit
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        • Dec 2005
        • 5210

        That is an extremely long video for an extremely short answer.
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        • #5
          maxicon
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4661

          The guy in the video is just guessing. He doesn't know, and is just saying this is what makes sense to him. And yes, he takes a very long time to give a 30 second answer. Video's not best for everything...

          If there's something in the manual, that's what I'd believe, but I'd also want to see corroboration on that.
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          • #6
            fairfaxjim
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 2146

            It may say so in german, but I doubt that it really has anything to do with accidental discharge when dropped. The P6 hammer AND firing pin both have a block on them unless the trigger is pulled. That would mean 3 items had to fail - the hammer release, the hammer trigger block, and the firing pin trigger block - a little notch in the hammer is going to prevent that? It almost seems like a european verision of CA BS gun rules - added in to stroke some "feel good" politician pretending to be worried about someone else's stuff. JMHO!
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            • #7
              Fantasma
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 3077

              So you can hang them when you got back from work...A guess is a guess...

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              • #8
                Knight
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 1723

                Originally posted by leelaw
                I was told that it was to alert the armorers that the gun was dropped and may need a good looking over.

                Take with a grain of salt.
                This is the explanation I have heard as well.
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                • #9
                  duenor
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4617

                  yes, that last is it.
                  the hammer gets bent when dropped. cops might not like to admit to having dropped their gun. armorer looks at it... "you dropped your gun, didncha?"
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                  • #10
                    Booshanky
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                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7822

                    Originally posted by wilit
                    That is an extremely long video for an extremely short answer.
                    Seriously. 7 minutes to say something he could have said in 30 seconds.
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                    • #11
                      ProtecSylt
                      Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 184

                      Getns.

                      I was a shooting instructor for LEOs in Germany for four years. The hammer indeed was designed to tell the armourer if the gun has been dropped.

                      All commercial 225s come with a regular SIG hammer - and if there was any chance of accidental discharge when dropped on a cocked hammer, all SIGs would have had the P6 hammer installed.

                      I do not have the manual for my gun - so I doin't know if it says anything like that in there though.

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                      • #12
                        berg
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1963

                        This question has already been answered definitively. The above is correct.

                        For more info on these guns from a guy who actually used them in Germany see these links:

                        I was wondering what the German Police were using as their standard round.




                        Why does my P6 have different sights and trigger from all the others i've seen? Are these armourer upgrades? I bought it from Dan's Ammo, and I very very happy I did!
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                        • #13
                          maxicon
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4661

                          Thanks - great links.

                          This post shows the German police ammo, which has plastic inserts to help prevent HP feed ramp jamming problems:
                          I was wondering what the German Police were using as their standard round.
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