Is this a legal configuration?

[Stunnason]

I saw this on ebay and thought it would be nice to shoot my Glock this way but wanted to know if its legal. I did a search on this and did not find any info. Can anyone tell me if its legal or not? thanks.


Here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/FAB-TACTICAL-TEL...ayphotohosting

[ke6guj]

that would be an Short barreled rifle. Illegal if not registered as SBR. Impossible to do for most people in CA.

And would be an AW to boot without a fixed mag.

[Steve-O]

Negative on legality of that configuration.

[Stunnason]

wow...thats sucks, but good to know, thanks guys.

[JTROKS]

Why even put a stock on a Glock pistol. I hate to see someone eat the back of the slide if someone gets carried away and put thier noggin too close.

[RomanDad]

Why even put a stock on a Glock pistol. I hate to see someone eat the back of the slide if someone gets carried away and put thier noggin too close.

I think it was designed for that Full Auto Glock- I think maybe it was the 18?

[What Just Happened?]

I think it was designed for that Full Auto Glock- I think maybe it was the 18?

There's a number of kits out there that put a stock on a Glock and a 16" barrel. Those are meant for states where you can have a semi-auto rifle with a detachable mag and a pistol grip.

[fairfaxjim]

There's a number of kits out there that put a stock on a Glock and a 16" barrel. Those are meant for states where you can have a semi-auto rifle with a detachable mag and a pistol grip.

You mean, like EVERYWHERE ELSE BUT HERE???

[Ugly Dwarf]

Why even put a stock on a Glock pistol. I hate to see someone eat the back of the slide if someone gets carried away and put thier noggin too close.

LOL...

Reminds me of the time a buddy was shooting a pistol gripped shotgun. He was lining it up to get a good shot and pulled the trigger... Though the scar healed up real well, we called him "The Lip" for many years.

[tazmanian devil dog]

Actually it would be legal if you bought an aftermarket 16" barrel for the glock, just be sure it is at least 30 inches in length with the stock collapsed. If length is cool. You should be o.k. Check with DOJ. ( I don't need to mention don't give them your name do I?) Also if I am right and you can do this legally, check these sites for barrels>

https://www.glockmeister.com

https://www.glockworks.com

https://www.gunaccessories.com

[tazmanian devil dog]

Oops I forgot about the whole pistol grip thing. Damn!!!!!! Disregard my post. I didn't see Whatjusthappeneds' post. Friggin' kali B.S.!!!!!!

[ke6guj]

yup, the pistol grip thing. And then there is the problem in which once you you put the stock on the glock, it is forever considered a rifle. So, even if you took the stock off first, the 16"/26" federal rules still apply.

[tonelar]

I dunno about that, had a 1911 that we stocked and 18" barreled years ago. As long as it was first registered as a pistol, you just had to take the stock off BEFORE the barrel (technically speaking).

[ke6guj]

ATF currently takes the position that if you take a pistol and put a 16+" barrel and shoulder stock, you have now turned it into a rifle, it is now to always be considered a rifle.

Dear __________________:

This is in reply to your correspondence which was received by the Firearms Technology Branch, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), on January 30, 2008. In your letter you inquire about the attachment of a folding stock to a pistol having a barrel length of 16 inches or greater.

As background, 27 CFR Sec. 479.11 (Meaning of Terms) states, in part:

The overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the bore.

Based on this description of overall length and its correct measurement, ATF has taken the position that firearms having folding or collapsible stocks are properly measured for overall length with the stock fully extended.

In the situation you present, the attachment of a folding shoulder stock to a pistol having a barrel length of 16 inches or greater would be lawful as long as the overall length of the resulting firearm is at least 26 inches with the stock fully extended. We caution that, because the configuration you have specified results in the manufacture of a rifle, a subsequent reconfiguration of the firearm to a pistol configuration would result in a weapon made from a rifle, which is a weapon controlled by the National Firearms Act (NFA).

We thank you for your inquiry and trust that the foregoing has been responsive.

Sincerely yours,

John R. Spencer
Chief, Firearms Technology Branch

[AJAX22]

ATF currently takes the position that if you take a pistol and put a 16+" barrel and shoulder stock, you have now turned it into a rifle, it is now to always be considered a rifle.

They can take whatever position they want, the T.C. case law is very specific.

You CAN turn a pistol into a rifle, and then back to a pistol legally, you just have to be sure not to make it a SBR at any point during the process.