Turner's consignment handguns...

[bigbob76]

Does anybody know if buying a consignment handgun at Turner's is considered a Private Party Transfer? If so it wouldn't limit me to one handgun every 30 days. The employees I've talked to so far don't seem to know.

[Black Majik]

Nope, unfortunately it's not treated as a PPT. Gotta pay tax too.

[FlyingPen]

Hmmm when I bought a consignment, I had to pay sales tax but it counted as a PPT, this was at a private dealer though, not a Turner's. I didn't have to wait the 30 days.

[Synergy]

I was in Turner's inquiring about a PPT and they said they charge tax on the price of the gun sold. So the original buyer in CA paid tax and the state charges tax again, great! Is this with just Turner's?

[berto]

I paid sales tax on a consignment but it was treated as a PPT for the 30 day limit. Not at Turners.

I think consignment doesn't fall under the 30 day rule as you're not actually buying from the dealer but from the owner through the dealer.

[hawk1]

Nope, unfortunately it's not treated as a PPT. Gotta pay tax too.

Bzzzz, wrong, it is done as a PPT.

[5150Marcelo]

cant be if buyer and seller arent present together.

[rue]

cant be if buyer and seller arent present together.

Not true that's FUD.
The owner consigns it through the dealer, when he gives the dealer the gun he fills out his part of the DROS. Then leaves. When the buyers buys it he fills out his part of the DROS and the deal is done. Still a PPT. Tax has to be charged per the Franchise tax board since the deal is happening in the store. Don't ask me why but that's the deal. I also think this is BS but apparently the State thinks it's kosher.

[hawk1]

rue has it correct.
As for the taxes, I think they have the dealers collect the tax because they have a better chance of getting it that way. Most buyers do not send in money for use tax or report it at the end of the year when doing their state income taxes.

[CALI-gula]

It's done as a PPT/Consignment, it is handled like a pawn transfer therefore it is taxed (and thus both parties ARE present in the same location at some point in the transfer), yet it is EXEMPT from the one-per-30 day limit....

Just be SURE it is a consignment and not a USED gun of C&R handgun, as Turner's may sell a USED gun they bought if it IS a gun currently on the roster (say a current Glock 23) - thus, it would be from their store stock and WOULD apply toward the one-per-30 day limit. Also, a C&R handgun is not exempt from the one-per-30 day if it IS being sold from store stock (pending you do NOT have your current C&R license with COE). ALWAYS ASK!

EXCEPT for local ordinances, such as for Turner's Reseda, where the CITY of Los Angeles has a one-per-30 day limit on the purchase of ANY handgun. Notice I said CITY and not COUNTY which is why that does not apply to other Turner's locations within the county of Los Angeles. Just city - you can thank ex-council member Mike Feuer for that one (now a State Assembly Member, instrumental behind resurrecting the Koretz microstamping bill/law - but getting it passed where Koretz never could).

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[1911su16b870]

Seems this will be a CA DOJ BOF DROS decision if you buy another handgun within 30 days of purchasing a Turner's consignment. Ultimately it will come down to an approval or rejection of the DROS.

IMO If Turners bought the consignment, then sells it to you, that would be a PPT and exempt from the 30 day rule. Turners has told me they hold consignments to run the model and serial number through AFS.

[blackhawk411]

Either way used guns are exempted form 30day rule anyway