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  • #16
    osxgp
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 435

    Originally posted by xxxx
    I got a question that I couldn't answer and it seems no one else could either, so I bring it to CalGuns:

    I have a friend who is lucky enough to live in a free state and he owns a few guns that are fitted with suppressors (aftermarket barrels) and wants to get a .22LR, he is turned off by the cheap materials used in the Walther P22 and guns made by the same company (I can't remember the name he said, he did his research) so he wants to pick up a Browning 1911-22 Compact. I never heard of it or seen it until I looked it up, it is almost an exact copy of the 1911A1 only 85% of the size of a 1911. He of course wants to run it suppressed, so to the question...

    Can he order the compact model and then order the full sized barrel, have it cut down and threaded? I don't think he can due to the fact that the barrel seems to be flared on the end, and me living in CA, I know very little about threaded barrels or custom threading.

    Is it possible to get a threaded barrel (whatever the normal threads are for a .22 suppressor) on this pretty unique "1911"? If so where should I tell him to go?

    P.S. I already tried talking him out of it into something more practical that is meant for what he wants to do. He has what I like to call, "free state problems."
    Has he considered the Ruger SR22 pistol? They have a threaded barrel model.

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    • #17
      xxxx
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 1706

      Originally posted by osxgp
      Has he considered the Ruger SR22 pistol? They have a threaded barrel model.
      He is against anything that has "pot metal" in it, to that excludes A LOT of .22s like the GSG stuff, Walther P22, etc. For some reason he is not a big Ruger fan, I told him to get this:



      So I just want to be as informative as possible and it seems like no one else on the internet is talking about this pistol and threading the barrel on it, so this now serves as a source of good info.

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      • #18
        redcliff
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2008
        • 5676

        Originally posted by xxxx
        he wants the Browning 1911-22 and I believe it does have a beaver tail safety (it's a copy of the 1911A1).
        Just to clarify, while the Browning 1911-22 has a grip safety, it does not have a "beavertail" style grip safety which I personally prefer on full size 1911's as it allows a higher hold, more positive engagement and spreads the felt recoil a bit better than a standard grip safety.

        Probably not needed on a reduced scale .22lr, but the tiny 1911a1 sights wouldn't be to my liking either as my eyes are way too old to struggle with tiny front sights. That's why I'd like to see an updated version from Browning with the beavertail, better sights and a bit larger thumb safety.
        "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
        "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
        "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

        "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
        although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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        • #19
          Bug Splat
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2007
          • 6561

          There is another option, cut threads on the inside of the barrel and keep the barrel bushing fit relation. Have an adapter made that will screw into the barrel and give you external threads an inch out.

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          • #20
            ojisan
            Agent 86
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2008
            • 11780

            I just stripped and checked my 1911-22 and Redcliff is 100% correct (as usual).
            A new custom extended barrel or a belled sleeve type attachment is what is needed.

            It's too bad your friend does not like Rugers:




            Oh, and IARC.

            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
            I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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            • #21
              redcliff
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2008
              • 5676

              Thanks for taking the time to verify our assumptions ojisan

              I like those Rugers you posted, nice you can get them direct from the factory like that.

              In regard to full steel .22 pistols for silencers I still think the High Standards are great and would be my choice as I'm partial to them due to many years of owning and using them; and I like the fact the barrels can be swapped so easily.



              IAOJI
              "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
              "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
              "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

              "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
              although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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              • #22
                Some Velvet-Fisted Brute
                Member
                • May 2013
                • 175

                Last edited by Some Velvet-Fisted Brute; 06-24-2013, 8:09 PM.
                Sorry about the typos. I browse mostly on my tablet and phone, and neither the touchscreens nor the autocorrection apps like me much.

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                • #23
                  xxxx
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1706

                  In terms of the "meat" department, he was planning on going with the "Officer" model and then purchasing a "GI" (full sized) barrel and adapting that, but since there is some sort of a bell thing on there it might be a problem. I don't know anything about suppressors or barrel threading - and I assume there is a lot more to it than is common knowledge.

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                  • #24
                    zfields
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 13658

                    Another option is having an extension welded on and threaded.

                    I know that is pretty common fix for some of the centerfire pistols that don't have OEM or aftermarket threaded barrels.
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                    • #25
                      xxxx
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1706

                      Originally posted by zfields
                      Another option is having an extension welded on and threaded.

                      I know that is pretty common fix for some of the centerfire pistols that don't have OEM or aftermarket threaded barrels.
                      See, I don't even know the size for threads for a .22LR, is it larger or smaller than the aluminum barrel sleeve? If it were much larger how would he be able to take apart the gun? (I posed the same question to him). Oh, how I wish I had free state problems...

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                      • #26
                        zfields
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 13658

                        Originally posted by xxxx
                        See, I don't even know the size for threads for a .22LR, is it larger or smaller than the aluminum barrel sleeve? If it were much larger how would he be able to take apart the gun? (I posed the same question to him). Oh, how I wish I had free state problems...
                        You need to find out what thread the can is, or what adapters are available for it, and match it as close as possible to the barrel. The extension should be welded so its flush and the same diameter of the barrel. It's then machined a bit smaller OD and threaded to match the can.
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                        • #27
                          xxxx
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1706

                          Originally posted by zfields
                          You need to find out what thread the can is, or what adapters are available for it, and match it as close as possible to the barrel. The extension should be welded so its flush and the same diameter of the barrel. It's then machined a bit smaller OD and threaded to match the can.
                          There isn't a standard size? I thought all .22s had a standard size. Walther P22, Ruger SR22, Ruger 22/45, etc. You mean to tell me the treading on all of those is different?

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                          • #28
                            zfields
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 13658

                            You are getting caught up on litterly the least important part. Most the 22lr suppressors I have seen are 1/2-28. Important part is on how the barrel should be set up.
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                            • #29
                              xxxx
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1706

                              I am sure he knows then, I am going to relay this information to him, unless anyone has any extra idea or directions to point for custom work I think this issue is resolved. Thanks so much for your help!

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                              • #30
                                xxxx
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1706

                                Update:

                                I have relayed all this info to him, but it seems that he already found a place to do it (they have it listed on their services page):



                                (I had no idea barrel threading was that expensive)

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