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  • SacTown
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1784

    LE agency issued ammunition?

    Does anyone know of a reference to what LE agencies are currently issued as their duty ammuniton? My guess would be Winchester Ranger T or similar but I would like to know for sure.

    I'm specifically looking for Sac County Sheriff issued ammuniton. I looked but failed to find anything and even called (Sac Sheriff) a couple times with no luck.

    I realize this is probably the wrong forum to be in but with better traffic I might find what I'm looking for. Thanks.
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    deadcoyote
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 4002

    I will not say where ( a dirty little backwater anyway) but we just switched from 180 ranger T to 180 HST due to it being reportedly slightly better and it being cheaper. Cheaper is the more likely reason.
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    • #3
      SacTown
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1784

      Originally posted by deadcoyote
      I will not say where ( a dirty little backwater anyway) but we just switched from 180 ranger T to 180 HST due to it being reportedly slightly better and it being cheaper. Cheaper is the more likely reason.
      Can I ask which agency? or atleast PD, SD, CHP, or other?
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      • #4
        Virus55
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 1697

        Us Stanislaus county boys are using the winchester ranger
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        • #5
          Mr310
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 5692

          LASD is 147 grain Winchester Ranger Ts for 9 and 230 grain Winchester Ranger Ts for .45. I believe, but am not sure LAPD's 9 ammo is the same. No clue about their .40.
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          • #6
            1SAM
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 837

            LAPD uses 230gr. HST for 45 i believe.

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            • #7
              becxltoo984
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 657

              Sac Sheriff patrol Is currently carry .40 cal 180Gr JHP made by Federal .
              I asked a Deputy friend some weeks ago .
              They also buy from Winchester/ Remington just depends who wins the bid .

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              • #8
                SacTown
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1784

                Originally posted by becxltoo984
                Sac Sheriff patrol Is currently carry .40 cal 180Gr JHP made by Federal .
                I asked a Deputy friend some weeks ago .
                They also buy from Winchester/ Remington just depends who wins the bid .
                Thanks. I'm assuming they use Federal HST?
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                • #9
                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Any ammo that says "Law Enforcement" or "Duty" ammunition on the box is issued by an agency.
                  Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                  The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                  • #10
                    SacTown
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1784

                    Originally posted by JDay
                    Any ammo that says "Law Enforcement" or "Duty" ammunition on the box is issued by an agency.
                    I realize this, but as a LTCer I would like to carry the exact same ammunition as my issuing agency.
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                    • #11
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Originally posted by SacTown
                      I realize this, but as a LTCer I would like to carry the exact same ammunition as my issuing agency.
                      Ask the Sheriff or a deputy. But if you're worried about liability don't be, unless you're using handloads.
                      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                      • #12
                        BrassCase
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3192

                        I would think that in all the larger departments must issue a bid with a minumum performance specification. Low price that meets the bid spec gets it.

                        Do LE use cheaper FMJ on the range for training and practice?
                        I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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                        • #13
                          pyromensch
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6881

                          might look at pre-fragmented ammo, like glaser, or magsafe....just in case you miss, and it doesn't over penetrate
                          That may be a CG first!



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                          • #14
                            sigstroker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19849

                            Originally posted by BrassCase
                            I would think that in all the larger departments must issue a bid with a minumum performance specification. Low price that meets the bid spec gets it.

                            Do LE use cheaper FMJ on the range for training and practice?
                            Depends. Agency my buddy was in had only one kind of ammo so they just issued that. A lot of guys in that agency sold it to the local gun shop.

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by sigstroker
                              Depends. Agency my buddy was in had only one kind of ammo so they just issued that. A lot of guys in that agency sold it to the local gun shop.
                              So the deputies were stealing from the taxpayers? Outstanding example of morals and professional ethics!
                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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