What's the procedure for a PPT?

[airgunner]

What is the procedure for a private party transfer?

[Loubot10]

Follow the law!

1. Legal buyer and seller agree on product and price.
2. Both parties meet at a legal FFL who does PPT's.
3. All required paperwork is filled out.
4. Seller needs valid ID, Buyer needs 2 forms of proof of state residency.
Driver's License and utility bill, or auto registration.
5. Seller gets paid by buyer, FFL gets paid a fee ($35), state gets fee.
6. For a handgun, buyer must pass a test.
7. 10 day wait if approved, 30 days to pick-up or start again with fee.

[airgunner]

Follow the law!

1. Legal buyer and seller agree on product and price.
2. Both parties meet at a legal FFL who does PPT's.
3. All required paperwork is filled out.
4. Seller needs valid ID, Buyer needs 2 forms of proof of state residency.
Driver's License and utility bill, or auto registration.
5. Seller gets paid by buyer, FFL gets paid a fee ($35), state gets fee.
6. For a handgun, buyer must pass a test.
7. 10 day wait if approved, 30 days to pick-up or start again with fee.

Thank you what is the "test" you are referring to?

And what is "start again with fee"

[Loubot10]

Handgun safety test. Common sense and knowledge.

If you fail to pickup the gun or if the paperwork was incorrectly filled out, then you have to start the process over again. Fees included and in the case of 30 days, an additional fee to the FFL.

[G-forceJunkie]

You need to take and pass the Handgun Saftey test and get the card. $25 IIRC. If you fail to pick the gun up after 30 days, you have to pay the $35 again and start another 10 day wait.

[bill_k_lopez]

Thank you what is the "test" you are referring to?

And what is "start again with fee"

The Test:
You have to have a HSC to purchase a handgun, if you don't already have it, you have to take the HSC test before you can purchase the gun.

The 30 day/fee:
Once you start the DROS process, you have to wait ten 24 hour periods, afterwards you can pick up your gun - if you wait more than thirty 24 hour periods you will have to pay the DROS fee again.

[Press Check]

Good etiquette for the money to exchange hands immediately following inspection, prior to the buyer completing an HSC test, DROS, or anything else.

[G-forceJunkie]

I agree with the above. In fact, it should be done before getting to the FFL. Its a slap to their face for you to be doing your buisness in their shop. They are there just for the transfer as required by law.

[fishhoppa]

I agree with the above. In fact, it should be done before getting to the FFL. Its a slap to their face for you to be doing your buisness in their shop. They are there just for the transfer as required by law.

Question - Where would be a good place to inspect and exchange money before entering the FFL/Shop? Do people actually do this in the parking lot? as I can't imagine whipping out the gun for inspection at a Starbucks.

Thanks for any advice here.

[Press Check]

I agree with the above. In fact, it should be done before getting to the FFL. Its a slap to their face for you to be doing your buisness in their shop. They are there just for the transfer as required by law.

Yep, exactly.

Question - Where would be a good place to inspect and exchange money before entering the FFL/Shop? Do people actually do this in the parking lot? as I can't imagine whipping out the gun for inspection at a Starbucks.

Thanks for any advice here.

I simply pop the trunk, have the buyer reach in, do a quick inspection, and take it from there. If I get the nod of approval, I close the case, give it to the buyer, accept payment, and head inside the FFL. If the lot is reasonably private, and away from public view, you're good to go. Aside from that, you can basically play with the pistol for the duration of the DROS process, and do a more thorough inspection.

The last time I did a PPT, the buyer neglected to pay me until DROS was completed. Clearly, he wasn't familiar with proper etiquette.

[fishhoppa]

Yep, exactly.



I simply pop the trunk, have the buyer reach in, do a quick inspection, and take it from there. If I get the nod of approval, I close the case, give it to the buyer, accept payment, and head inside the FFL. If the lot is reasonably private, and away from public view, you're good to go. Aside from that, you can basically play with the pistol for the duration of the DROS process, and do a more thorough inspection.

The last time I did a PPT, the buyer neglected to pay me until DROS was completed. Clearly, he wasn't familiar with proper etiquette.

Thanks PressCheck,

[madoka]

The last time I did a PPT, the buyer neglected to pay me until DROS was completed. Clearly, he wasn't familiar with proper etiquette.

I don't think there is a "proper etiquette" here. It would make more sense to pay after the DROS to make sure that there isn't any problems with the transaction before handing over the cash. If the DROS goes through fine, it's not like the gun is going to disappear. But if the background check comes back with problems, the seller isn't forced to ask for the money back unless they do it your way.

[Press Check]

I don't think there is a "proper etiquette" here. It would make more sense to pay after the DROS to make sure that there isn't any problems with the transaction before handing over the cash. If the DROS goes through fine, it's not like the gun is going to disappear. But if the background check comes back with problems, the seller isn't forced to ask for the money back unless they do it your way.

Pay after DROS? Background check comes back with problems?

Prior to meeting, to avoid wasting any time, I make sure that the buyer has a valid DL, valid Registration or other acceptable document, and a current HSC. Aside from that, my responsibility as the seller is to deliver the pistol in said condition, present valid ID, and be out of there within 10 minutes of initiating the PPT. Nothing more.

[Press Check]

In fact, during each PPT that I was the seller, after providing my ID, I was told by the FFL that I my end was done, and could leave. Why would I wait until the buyer completed the DROS process?

[madoka]

Pay after DROS? Background check comes back with problems?

Prior to meeting, to avoid wasting any time, I make sure that the buyer has a valid DL, valid Registration or other acceptable document, and a current HSC. Aside from that, my responsibility as the seller is to deliver the pistol in said condition, present valid ID, and be out of there within 10 minutes of initiating the PPT. Nothing more.

I guess you've never had a bad seller crop up on you. Recently I had a seller reveal to me that he was not the real owner of the gun only after we walked into the shop.

Again, the gun is not going anywhere after you've left the shop, so why the rush in paying? When everything checks out and the gun is safely in the hands of the FFL, that's when I feel like paying cash to a stranger, regardless of your made-up "proper etiquette."