AR15 Pistol Thordsen Buffer Tube Cover Cali Legal?

[L.A.JOE]

Opinion on the legalities of the Thordsen Custom Buffer Tube Cover for an AR15 Pistol Build. Thoughts, feedbacks. Thank you.

[JeremyS]

I'm not sure I understand. Why would it be illegal in any way? It isn't a shoulder stock.

[L.A.JOE]

The AR pistol build will be utilizing the M4 6 Position Carbine Stock Tube. The Thordsen Buffer tube cover slips over it.

Added Pics.

[HPGunner]

Not sure - but my understanding from browsing through Calguns is that if the buffer tube has the ability to accept a shoulder stock it's a no no. Is the Thordsen Buffer simply slip on and off or is it somehow permanently attached to the standard carbine stock tube. I know the pistol tubes are larger in diameter and and without the notches or the guide to accept a collapsible shoulder stock.

[stix213]

I seriously doubt there is existing case law or CA DOJ opinion (when they were issuing them) on something like this. Personally I'd shy away from using a carbine tube in CA even with something over it.

[JeremyS]

The AR pistol build will be utilizing the M4 6 Position Carbine Stock Tube.

Oh. I would not personally do that. I assumed you were planning on putting the cover over a pistol buffer tube. It's illegal if the gun has the "ability to accept a shoulder stock" and using a standard carbine tube meets that definition. A pistol tube that cannot accept a stock is okay because you would have to take the gun apart in order to swap a different tube on there that could accept a stock. The Thordsen cover is just a cover and can be removed without changing the gun in any way. Maybe you should just ask them about that. They certainly picture AR pistols on their site and they're a CA company. They only talk about the cover not making it an SBR... not mention of your specific concern. See question 5 in their ATF response letter: http://siterepository.s3.amazonaws.c...nce_letter.pdf

Linked from their site here: http://siterepository.s3.amazonaws.c...nce_letter.pdf

[L.A.JOE]

Is the Thordsen Buffer simply slip on and off or is it somehow permanently attached to the standard carbine stock tube. I know the pistol tubes are larger in diameter and and without the notches or the guide to accept a collapsible shoulder stock.

The Thordsen Buffer Cover has a retaining plate with 4 screws that gives a permanent attachment and locks solid to the Buffer for a solid snug fit with no movement what so ever. It can only be mounted and removed with tools. The Thordsen Buffer Cover renders the use and function of the 6 position buffer tube and will not allow the use of a shoulder stock. The shoulder stock is in no way will fit or function with the Thordsen Buffer Cover. The Buffer Cover has integrated mount slot that allows the use of the CAA Cheek Rest.

[L.A.JOE]

Thank for the Link JeremyS.
It gives clarification but I'm wondering what the verdict is from our peers.

[munkeeboi]

Pistol tubes are cheap enough that I wouldn't risk it

[fast54vw]

that looks like it was made to mount the CAA saddle. i bet it would work perfectly. And we already know those are legal.
when i mounted mine i basically made the same thing out of vinyl tubing, it works great and super solid

[Quiet]

Pistol tubes are cheap enough that I wouldn't risk it

[spdrcr]

Pistol tubes are cheap enough that I wouldn't risk it

Another vote for this.

Dedicated pistol tubes are only around $25 and you know they aren't going to be ambiguous or open to interpretation.

[REDPATCHUSMC]

Since I own this stock, I'll give an opinion.

1. The 4 buffer tube cover screws can be lock tite'd or secured to prevent removal, leaving the buffer tube cover as the only adaptable piece that is useful.
2. Fill in the 6/4 position holes on the bottom of the tube. With these filled in, NO adjustable stock will work on the tube.

Just my two cents!

[h0use]

I like it! Were did you order it from?

[L.A.JOE]

I like it! Were did you order it from?

@ Thordsencustoms.com