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  • Frostbite
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 181

    Conversion Barrels and the Safe Gun List

    I was browsing around some online gun sales sites and found a P2000SK for sale that comes with both a .40 S&W barrel and a .357 Sig barrel. I was looking at the safe gun list and that gun in .357 Sig wasn't on the list. I'm assuming that means that if the gun came from the manufacturer as a .40 S&W then I'm okay to buy it and drop in the .357 barrel but if the opposite is true, I won't be able to DROS it. Can anyone confirm that?
    "The world is my country, science is my religion." --Christiaan Huygens
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    FlyingPen
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 2377

    Yeah, IIRC, P2000's have their caliber markings on the slide so whatever the slide says...

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    • #3
      ghideon
      Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 403

      My P2K has caliber and serials on the barrel and the slide. The frame has a serial on the bottom of the dust cover.

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      • #4
        Sig226
        Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 459

        Uhm, actually, I believe its whatever the frame says, or doesnt....


        The slide is not the firearm, the frame is. (Unless the serial is only on the slide...)

        So, on that note, if there is no cal marking next to the serialized "firearm" part of the pistol--- you are good to go with either. (It would make it easier for you by way of FFL if you just put the barrel in for the cal that is approved though.)
        "The right "to carry arms in the militia for the purpose of killing game" is worthy of the mad hatter. Thus, these purposive qualifying phrases positively establish that "to bear arms" is not limited to military use." - Justice Scalia
        -Heller v. District of Columbia

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        • #5
          Coffee
          Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 372

          Originally posted by Sig226
          Uhm, actually, I believe its whatever the frame says, or doesnt....


          The slide is not the firearm, the frame is. (Unless the serial is only on the slide...)

          So, on that note, if there is no cal marking next to the serialized "firearm" part of the pistol--- you are good to go with either. (It would make it easier for you by way of FFL if you just put the barrel in for the cal that is approved though.)
          So if I buy a gun (9mm, 40, 45) on the approved list a .22 conversion is ok?

          Is that info written down anywhere?

          Sorry for the hijack.

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          • #6
            FlyingPen
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 2377

            The only time you'll have to worry is getting it through the FFL and seeing what they write down on the DROS form.

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            • #7
              Sig226
              Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 459

              Originally posted by Coffee
              So if I buy a gun (9mm, 40, 45) on the approved list a .22 conversion is ok?

              Is that info written down anywhere?

              Sorry for the hijack.
              Yessir, that would be correct.

              Originally posted by FlyingPen
              The only time you'll have to worry is getting it through the FFL and seeing what they write down on the DROS form.
              And that is truth boiled down to simplicity....So long as the gun is what it is, and the FLL knows that and subsequently puts it down that way---you will be fine.
              "The right "to carry arms in the militia for the purpose of killing game" is worthy of the mad hatter. Thus, these purposive qualifying phrases positively establish that "to bear arms" is not limited to military use." - Justice Scalia
              -Heller v. District of Columbia

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              • #8
                Frostbite
                Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 181

                Originally posted by Sig226
                And that is truth boiled down to simplicity....So long as the gun is what it is, and the FLL knows that and subsequently puts it down that way---you will be fine.
                Yeah, I'd just hate to get it all the way here and have the dealer say he can't DROS it because it's a .357 Sig and not on the list. I'd have no problem buying .40 S&W locally but the conversion barrels are impossible to find so I thought this would be a pretty sweet deal.

                Looks like I may be stuck buying a Block if I want a sub-compact that can shoot .40 and .357.
                "The world is my country, science is my religion." --Christiaan Huygens

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                • #9
                  FlyingPen
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 2377

                  I actually sent payment and everything for a 357SIG P2000 only to find it's not on the list. I ended up cancelling everything.

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                  • #10
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44647

                    Originally posted by Coffee
                    So if I buy a gun (9mm, 40, 45) on the approved list a .22 conversion is ok?

                    Is that info written down anywhere?
                    It's sort of the other way 'round - it is NOT written down that you CAN NOT do the .22 conversion.

                    That's because the laws at this point are written to limit what FFLs can sell, not what can be done with a handgun once it has been legally transferred (AW changes excepted).

                    In short, the principle currently in effect is 'if it is not forbidden, it is optional'.
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • #11
                      Coffee
                      Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 372

                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      In short, the principle currently in effect is 'if it is not forbidden, it is optional'.
                      Gotcha - thanks much.

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