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  • TANK1135
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 288

    Screwed

    California to Implement Flawed Microstamping Procedures
    California Attorney General Kamala Harris said this week that the state will immediately enforce a requirement that every new semiautomatic handgun contain microstamping technology. California becomes the first state to require easily defeated microstamping, which engraves the gun's serial number on each cartridge.

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    I can't get the rest of the article to come up but it basically says CA is screwed.It is the old law that the govenator passed on 2007.No gun manufactures are going to do that just to sell guns in CA [cost about 200 extra]
  • #2
    berg
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1963

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    • #3
      'ol shooter
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 4646

      If this isn't a wake-up call for all who are too lazy or indifferent to vote, I don't know what is, and for those too cheap to support pro-gun organizations as well. Wake up and smell the coffee, boys and girls, Stand and Fight!
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      • #4
        Snoopy47
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 3915

        12126(b) Sec.7

        Commencing January 1, 2010, for all semiautomatic pistols that are not already listed on the roster pursuant to Section 12131, it is not designed and equipped with a microscopic array of characters that identify the make, model, and serial number of the pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in two or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired, provided that the Department of Justice certifies that the technology used to create the imprint is available to more than one manufacturer unencumbered by any patent restrictions. The Attorney General may also approve a method of equal or greater reliability and effectiveness in identifying the specific serial number of a firearm from spent cartridge casings discharged by that firearm than that which is set forth in this paragraph, to be thereafter required as otherwise set forth by this paragraph where the Attorney General certifies that this new method is also unencumbered by any patent restrictions. Approval by the Attorney General shall include notice of that fact via regulations adopted by the Attorney General for purposes of implementing that method for purposes of this paragraph. The microscopic array of characters required by this section shall not be considered the name of the maker, model, manufacturer’s number, or other mark of identification, including any distinguishing number or mark assigned by the Department of Justice, within the meaning of Sections 12090 and 12094.


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        There's a lot of room to fight this, CA firearm laws are designed with a lot of holes in them
        Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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        • #5
          Uncle Leo
          Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 290

          Originally posted by 'ol shooter
          If this isn't a wake-up call for all who are too lazy or indifferent to vote, I don't know what is, and for those too cheap to support pro-gun organizations as well. Wake up and smell the coffee, boys and girls, Stand and Fight!
          I don't think the republicans or organizations like the nra appeal to minorities. They may want to start there. It seems rhetoric alone have taken the Democrats a long way. Its not like their governing is anything to brag about.

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          • #6
            mlevans66
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2009
            • 9516

            This has been in the works for awhile BUT the person that does the microstamping is the ONLY person that does it. It has to be more then one so this is just another "feel good" measure.
            The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
            The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
            I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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            • #7
              missiontrails
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2008
              • 7882

              Eventually our CA handguns will have LCI, mag disconnect, Microstamp, they will be painted bright yellow, will have LoJack, and turn signals and brake lights.... and maybe biometric fingerprint readers. They will be $2000 Ruger SR9's.

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              • #8
                kmca
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 2371

                Originally posted by mlevans66
                This has been in the works for awhile BUT the person that does the microstamping is the ONLY person that does it. It has to be more then one so this is just another "feel good" measure.
                If you read the letter, it says the technology is available on the open market now, so the law takes effect immediately

                Last edited by kmca; 05-24-2013, 1:28 PM. Reason: added link

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                • #9
                  curtru
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1278

                  So how do we as Americans get our rights back? its like we are on the edge of an eroding cliff all of the California gun laws are restricting our 2a rights and those uninformed ppl that over populate cali don't see what effect this will actually do.

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                  • #10
                    Exospeed
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 587

                    gats
                    Peace is that brief moment in history when everybody stands around reloading. - unknown

                    Democrats screw poor people in the a** while whispering into their ear that they are trying to help them. - unknown

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                    • #11
                      Wally2528
                      Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 228

                      I am probably one of those uniformed ppl you mention above, but thinking in my family and my personal security, I believe this measure is aiming to ease the tracking of the firing gun when a felony is committed, so the owner can be spotted and identified in real time and brought before justice, so how bad is that?, if it is a criminal or a person that should not have access to guns, the gun would be confiscated immediately, and it that is the case, to confiscate guns in dangerous hands, it should be supported. Cost increase? Just budget what your income allows you to. A less fancy smartphone probably will cover the gap. My 2 cents.

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                      • #12
                        Motodad
                        Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 133

                        Originally posted by Wally2528
                        I am probably one of those uniformed ppl you mention above, but thinking in my family and my personal security, I believe this measure is aiming to ease the tracking of the firing gun when a felony is committed, so the owner can be spotted and identified in real time and brought before justice, so how bad is that?, if it is a criminal or a person that should not have access to guns, the gun would be confiscated immediately, and it that is the case, to confiscate guns in dangerous hands, it should be supported. Cost increase? Just budget what your income allows you to. A less fancy smartphone probably will cover the gap. My 2 cents.
                        So, how many criminals are buying guns legally. How (with your reasoning above) would this do anything if the gun used was stolen? Another idiotic law that will do zero but cost legal gun owners.

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                        • #13
                          NorCalNative
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 563

                          Originally posted by Wally2528
                          I am probably one of those uniformed ppl you mention above, but thinking in my family and my personal security, I believe this measure is aiming to ease the tracking of the firing gun when a felony is committed, so the owner can be spotted and identified in real time and brought before justice, so how bad is that?, if it is a criminal or a person that should not have access to guns, the gun would be confiscated immediately, and it that is the case, to confiscate guns in dangerous hands, it should be supported. Cost increase? Just budget what your income allows you to. A less fancy smartphone probably will cover the gap. My 2 cents.
                          You're right. I demand that all car tires be equipped with a marketing system so the police can quickly identify the owner of a car that was used either directly in a crime or transported criminals to and from the place of the crime.

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                          • #14
                            Wally2528
                            Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 228

                            Well, not being a lawyer or a cop I can tell that stolen guns are not counted in thousands to begin with, if a gun is stolent the owner must be held accountable for the lack of preventive measures like having a safe. Second if he reports the gun stolen he is in the safe side and when the gun gets recovered the marks in the case might tell if it is linked to a felony so the last person in posesion is at stake, not a bad thing, right? Third you will be surprised by the amount of people buying guns legally and then selling them to illegal hands (ATF's Fast and Furious case rings a bell for you? With this measure the felon and the legal buyer of the gun are both screwed, does that sound OK to you? Believe me, I do not want restrictions etiher, but let's be logical sometimes, not all gun laws are bad necessarily, if they aim to keep law abiding persons in legal posession of guns, and remove guns form the criminals hands is not a bad thing, in my opinion.

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                            • #15
                              Wally2528
                              Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 228

                              Hello! Have you heard of GPS technology? Believe or not the car makers, satellite services like Sirius XM and eventully police can tell when and where a car was, so no need for tires tracking systems to spot your car.

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