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  • dpop24
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1117

    First 1911, question about reassembly

    Got my new to me SA TRP home tonight and broke it down to clean it. I watched several videos on YouTube so I'd be good and ready when I got it out of jail. Everything went great and I avoided the dreaded idiot scratch, but now it's making a sound that I don't think it made before disassembly.

    The best way I can describe the noise is its like corduroy pants rubbing together "sweesh sweesh sweesh". I noticed that the guide rod is textured and I'm sure that's what is making the noise but I'm feeling like it's something I did that caused it.

    I'm probably going to replace the full length guide rod so I can have tool-less assembly but want to shoot the gun this weekend in its current configuration. Tips? Advice?
  • #2
    negolien
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 4829

    Hard to help without seeing what you're doing. If your watching the disassembly and reassembly You shouldn't have any issues as long as you did a field strip and didn't pull the sear and Mainspring housing apart. Just follow step by step instructions then function test it.


    Do page 1 only. Just do the field strip backwards for Assembly

    Last edited by negolien; 05-14-2013, 1:43 AM.
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    • #3
      bulletblood
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 753

      Take it apart and make sure you didn't get any dirt in there. Then oil the guide rod and barrel while you're at it. 1911s like to run wetter than other guns. Don't listen to folks that freak out if you put more than half a drop on the rails.
      Do I look like I'm ready for homework?

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      • #4
        tinman1975
        Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 277

        I bet you didn't notice it.....but it was probably doing it before you took it apart. Mine does the same thing. It makes the sound when you rack the slide right? If you take it apart again and look inside the top of the slide you wil see that surface where the metal to metal contact is is sort of "ribbed" from machining marks......my guess is that contributes some to it and the milling on the guide rod probably does too....lube it up and shoot it. After a few hundred rounds mine quieted down and the ribs smoothed out some. And noise or not.....trp is stil the nicest handgun I have ever shot. Google "trp sounds like a zipper" and you will find its not super uncommon
        Last edited by tinman1975; 05-14-2013, 5:59 AM.

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        • #5
          cc426
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 647

          It's a very tight fit gun mine does it too. Just make sure it's well lubed, rails on slide/frame, slide stop, guide rod, barrel, locking lugs. Then go shoot it and have fun!

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          • #6
            Track Rat
            Banned
            • Mar 2013
            • 452

            Guide rod/spring squeak?

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            • #7
              dpop24
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 1117

              Originally posted by negolien
              Hard to help without seeing what you're doing. If your watching the disassembly and reassembly You shouldn't have any issues as long as you did a field strip and didn't pull the sear and Mainspring housing apart. Just follow step by step instructions then function test it.


              Do page 1 only. Just do the field strip backwards for Assembly

              http://how-i-did-it.org/detail-1911/field_strip.html
              Page 1 is exactly what I did, a simple field strip, clean, lube, and reassemble. I took it apart and back together an additional 2 times to make sure I didn't cause any binding on the spring. Everything seems good to go, but I just get the corduroy/zipper sound now.

              Originally posted by bulletblood
              Take it apart and make sure you didn't get any dirt in there. Then oil the guide rod and barrel while you're at it. 1911s like to run wetter than other guns. Don't listen to folks that freak out if you put more than half a drop on the rails.
              I oiled it up pretty well, to the point where there is dripping oil on the frame that came out of the rails. Hickok45 says to run a 1911 wet, so I went pretty liberal. Once I heard the corduroy sound, I went back in and added grease to the guide rode, rails, and outside of barrel. Still got the sweesh sweesh sweesh when I rack the slide.

              Originally posted by tinman1975
              I bet you didn't notice it.....but it was probably doing it before you took it apart. Mine does the same thing. It makes the sound when you rack the slide right? If you take it apart again and look inside the top of the slide you wil see that surface where the metal to metal contact is is sort of "ribbed" from machining marks......my guess is that contributes some to it and the milling on the guide rod probably does too....lube it up and shoot it. After a few hundred rounds mine quieted down and the ribs smoothed out some. And noise or not.....trp is stil the nicest handgun I have ever shot. Google "trp sounds like a zipper" and you will find its not super uncommon
              I hope you're right. I Googled an found others questioning the same thing, thanks for the search term - "sweesh" wouldn't have brought up any hits!.

              I'm going to shoot it this weekend and see how it goes, but I think I'll plan to replace the full length guide rod so I can have tool-less assembly.

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              • #8
                negolien
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 4829

                It's fairly simple procedure. If you are sure everything went back correctly I would take it out to shoot and see if their are any issues. The nicer 1911 are pretty tight fitting so be aware of that. The suggestion is like 500 rounds without any cleaning or disassmbly if I remember right
                "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

                George Orwell

                http://www.AnySoldier.com

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                • #9
                  mike.h
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1606

                  yep, just keep it oiled,

                  although I did passed a bore snake through it a couple times.
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                  • #10
                    SixPointEight
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 3788

                    Mine does it. You're fine

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                    • #11
                      DArBad
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 3002

                      Make sure the RECOIL SPRING is put in properly-----the tighter wounded end should go in FIRST into the FLGR.

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                      • #12
                        c3 rolling
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 726

                        It's the recoil spring rubbing the full length guide rod. Put a very light coat of oil on the guide rod and exterior of the recoil spring. I never noticed this sound until you mentioned it, had to go rack all my SA 1911's. Now go shoot the crap out of it!
                        Last edited by c3 rolling; 05-14-2013, 4:51 PM.

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                        • #13
                          dpop24
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 1117

                          Originally posted by DArBad
                          Make sure the RECOIL SPRING is put in properly-----the tighter wounded end should go in FIRST into the FLGR.
                          That actually made a big difference, it was "backwards". It still makes the noise a little bit but it's much less noticeable. Thanks!!!!!!! I feel better.

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                          • #14
                            negolien
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 4829

                            doh

                            Originally posted by dpop24
                            That actually made a big difference, it was "backwards". It still makes the noise a little bit but it's much less noticeable. Thanks!!!!!!! I feel better.
                            LOL nice glad it was something simple now....
                            "Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

                            George Orwell

                            http://www.AnySoldier.com

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                            • #15
                              CrippledPidgeon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1765

                              Originally posted by tinman1975
                              I bet you didn't notice it.....but it was probably doing it before you took it apart. Mine does the same thing. It makes the sound when you rack the slide right? If you take it apart again and look inside the top of the slide you wil see that surface where the metal to metal contact is is sort of "ribbed" from machining marks......my guess is that contributes some to it and the milling on the guide rod probably does too....lube it up and shoot it.
                              Lately, the Springfield guide rods have been machined fairly rough. I personally dislike the 2-piece rods, so I replaced mine with a one-piece (which I eventually replaced with a short guide rod)

                              Originally posted by dpop24
                              I oiled it up pretty well, to the point where there is dripping oil on the frame that came out of the rails. Hickok45 says to run a 1911 wet, so I went pretty liberal. Once I heard the corduroy sound, I went back in and added grease to the guide rode, rails, and outside of barrel. Still got the sweesh sweesh sweesh when I rack the slide.
                              1911s should be greased on the slide rails, barrel bushing, and barrel link.

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