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  • rsmorgan
    Member
    • Sep 2002
    • 370

    Ruger LC380

    I generally am not a great fan of the .380 as a defensive handgun option, but I have to confess I'm somewhat intrigued with this gun.

    For the last 10 years the name of the game has been making pistols smaller and lighter. The first wave were the micro-.380s like the LCP followed by a second wave of mini-9mms like the LC9. The problem with such guns is that the recoil is rather fierce. For a typical user, this makes the gun at best hard to control and commonly results in slower shooting and poor bullet placement due to a lack of practice with the gun. For most of us, 10 to 12oz is too light for a .380 and 17oz not enough mass for a 9mm.

    As a practical matter, most people would be better served by a somewhat heavier and somewhat larger handgun and I think Ruger has "broken the code" with the LC380 as an alternative to the LCP. Based on my experience, a "nice usable weight" for a .380 is around 16oz and half again as much (24oz) for a 9mm. At these weight levels practice is more-or-less pleasant rather than punishing and in combat one won't be wrestling with the gun as well as fighting the goblin.

    For most people what you give up with buying the LC380 rather than the LCP is pocket carry, but you are likely to be better served with belt carry anyway. By using a heavier slide, Ruger can also allow a significantly easier recoil spring, a real advantage for many smaller and older shooters. Because it is a locked-breech design, the recoil impulse is much better distributed than a revolver or blow-back pistol of the same weight. Perhaps the LC380s biggest utility is as an "old folks gun." As I get older I've become increasingly aware that I don't have the grip strength I once did and understand that this is a fairly common problem. For someone of advancing years, A small but soft-kicking .380 would be an attractive alternative to toting a heavier 9mm or the snappier recoil of a blow-back .380 of roughly the same size and weight.
    RSM

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    Legasat
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    • Mar 2009
    • 4151

    .380 rounds have come a long way in the last 10-15 years. I think they are much more of a realistic option than they once were. Haven't shot the LC380, but I'm sure I will at some point.
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    • #3
      SDM44
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 3895

      I have no problems shooting my LCP, with a Hogue Handall grip and RK trigger. Makes for a smooth & comfortable shooter, and recoil is very manageable with the Hogue grip.

      My old LC9 felt good too, but was 'huge' IMO compared to the LCP. I haven't handled a LC380 yet, but I do know the dimensions are the same as the LC9. Doesn't seem to interest right now..... until I can handle & shoot one.

      The LC380 seems like the niche gun that is CA legal since the popular LCP isn't. But for the overall size, and cost of ammo (and the JHP ammo of 9mm vs .380.... not to say .380 is bad, but compared to 9mm equivalents), the LC9 just seems like the better choice.

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      • #4
        G21Shooter
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 3577

        I too think the LC380 is good option for both recoil sensitive and older users. This gun is NOT for intermediate/advanced shooters, but a person who wants "a gun" to protect them self that is shootable without lots of practice.

        With modern self defensive ammo, .380 is MUCH better than a sharp stick, that is for sure.

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        • #5
          FNH5-7
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 9406

          I really don't see the point in the LC380 other than a gun bigger than the LCP that can be sold in highly restrictive countries that have the .380 and 38 Special only rule which is popular in Europe, Brazil and Mexico.

          I have an LCP and I like it, I also like the LC9. When I first came across the LC380 I thought it was a mistake in the listing on gunbroker. The LC9 and LC380 being the same size gun I don't see why anyone would go with the LC380 instead. 380 is more expensive, less powerful and less popular(here in the US) than 9mm.
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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Originally posted by Colt-45
            I really don't see the point in the LC380 other than a gun bigger than the LCP that can be sold in highly restrictive countries that have the .380 and 38 Special only rule which is popular in Europe, Brazil and Mexico.

            I have an LCP and I like it, I also like the LC9. When I first came across the LC380 I thought it was a mistake in the listing on gunbroker. The LC9 and LC380 being the same size gun I don't see why anyone would go with the LC380 instead. 380 is more expensive, less powerful and less popular(here in the US) than 9mm.
            Because some people (mostly guys) feel that .380ACP has less felt recoil than 9x19mm, so they buy .380ACP handguns for their significant others (mostly girls).

            Hence the Ruger LC-380, which is the same size and has has the same magazine capacity as the Ruger LC-9.
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            • #7
              RedFord150
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2009
              • 5665

              Originally posted by Quiet
              Because some people (mostly guys) feel that .380ACP has less felt recoil than 9x19mm, so they buy .380ACP handguns for their significant others (mostly girls).....
              I have always kept a small gun for travel purposes. This was in addition too .357 mag revolvers and .45 acp semi-autos I kept for HD.
              I started with a Jennings .25, than a Taurus .38 snubbie, than a Bersa .380.
              The Bersa is not only pleasant too shoot, it is accurate and reliable. I spend money on really good ammo (Cor-Bon DPX) and I am very confident my shot placement is far better than my previous small guns.
              Because the gun is so nice too shoot, I practice with it a lot. Everyone that shoots it really likes it.
              I will tell anyone that caliber is a secondary concern. Primary concern is a reliable gun that you shoot proficiently with.
              Do not get caught up in the endless caliber wars that seem to go on or the latest fad guns. Buy what works for you.
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              • #8
                rsmorgan
                Member
                • Sep 2002
                • 370

                A clarification:

                Having a gun is the most important thing in a gunfight and bullet placement trumps ballistics. I'd prefer a more robust caliber than .380 but if my hand continues to deteriorate the way it has over the last five years, it probably won't be that long before I won't be able to shoot a micro-.380, a small 9mm like the LC9 or a .38 snubby with full-power loads. I don't think I'm the only one in this position. Even if they could shoot a full-power small handgun with training, I also think there are also a lot of folks who are intimidated by the heavy recoil involved. Instead of looking for "the best solution," this suggests that there are a lot of people looking for a "workable solution." That is the role I see for the LC380. I think it says good things about Ruger that they recognize and are addressing this market.
                RSM

                The Truth will set you free, but first it will make you damn mad!

                Old Scottish proverb:

                If ya' cinna' drive the fooging trook, dinna buy the fooging trook!

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                • #9
                  emsalex
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 550

                  There are quite a few people out there who think this is a brand new gun, I have seen people say it is an lcp with safety's or they think it is in-between the size of the lc9 and lcp.

                  For some people it is the perfect or best carry option, and that is great. I would not buy one or steer someone away from one. But I would recommend putting Alot of rounds through it right away, Ruger likes to let there customers find known problems on there own.

                  I won't buy one but I would pick up a LC380 barrel if i found one for cheap.
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                  • #10
                    bewguns
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 84

                    LCP .380 review

                    I've not been a big fan of the .380 round but was fortunate enough to win an LCP (thanks CRPA and Sportsman's Warehouse!) a couple of weeks ago at the CRPA Family Fun shoot held at Sac Valley.
                    The reviews I've read are mixed so I was afraid I might not like it. In fact, there was a lady at the CRPA shoot that said "the trigger is horrible so the first thing you need to do is go to the gunsmith and have it modified". Maybe I'm biased due to the fact that it was free but after putting 125 rounds through it this am, I can't complain.
                    The grip is a little thin (I'm considering a Hogue sleeve) but, after all, it's supposed to be thin. Accuracy was good, recoil was mild, it's lightweight, and should be easily concealable. The trigger has a long double-action pull but it's smooth and after a while it was easy to make a nice pull through the break.
                    Anyway, just my two cents but I'm pretty happy with it and look forward to shooting it again soon.

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                    • #11
                      dpop24
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1117

                      An interesting take. I looked at one in the gun store the other day and couldn't figure out who would buy a less powerful LC9. Now it makes more sense to me!

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