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  • Blownmotor
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 1334

    On roster gun but....

    Can you buy an on roster gun from an out of state FFL with compliant magazines and all but without the California LCI and magazine disconnect ie Sig P226/P229 with a 10 round magazine without the LCI or magazine disconnect?
    Last edited by Blownmotor; 04-20-2013, 11:57 PM.
    History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44690

    Not unless the version on the Roster doe not have those things.

    For a gun new enough, the LCI and the mag disconnect were 'gating factors' to get on the Roster. If a gun is on the Roster from before those two were required, it doesn't need them now.
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    • #3
      SMR510
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Nov 2008
      • 883

      Man you asked that in a really hard to understand way but if I understand correctly the answer is:

      No you cant buy a handgun that is similar to one on the roster but one that also lacks some of the safety features required to get a gun on the roster. If the model is not the exact model on the roster then it is off roster, even things like color need to be "correct". The exception to the above are pistols that were added before some of the requirements, some CZ's and other pistols I am sure are on there without some of the features. As long as the company pays every year they are allowed to stay on but if they ever come off they can not go back on.

      Stupid, we know.

      Damn beat by Librarian again...

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      • #4
        Blownmotor
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 1334

        Thanks for responding so quick. I couldn't find a better way to describe it. Just trying to find a way to circumvent the roster without SSE on the same freaking gun just without the "safeties".
        History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes

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        • #5
          SoulStealer
          AFreePeopleOughtToBeArmed
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2011
          • 1804

          Originally posted by Blownmotor
          Thanks for responding so quick. I couldn't find a better way to describe it. Just trying to find a way to circumvent the roster without SSE on the same freaking gun just without the "safeties".
          PPT??

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          • #6
            Blownmotor
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 1334

            What if you want new?
            History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes

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            • #7
              SoulStealer
              AFreePeopleOughtToBeArmed
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2011
              • 1804

              SSE or Roster Exempt or Move?? Do you have a family member that lives out of state?

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              • #8
                Blownmotor
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 1334

                Unfortunately no. Back to plan A....
                History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes

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                • #9
                  SoulStealer
                  AFreePeopleOughtToBeArmed
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 1804

                  Originally posted by Blownmotor
                  Unfortunately no. Back to plan A....
                  Your best bet is to SSE one before the laws change.

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                  • #10
                    SMR510
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 883

                    SSE is your only option.

                    Out of curiosity do you want one without the safeties because you dont want the safeties or because you are having trouble locating the approved model?

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                    • #11
                      rsmorgan
                      Member
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 370

                      Roster approval is by SKU; gun makers can occasionally change the SKU on a gun that remains the same, but it is a major task with the DOJ. With a very few exceptions, if it isn't on the roster or otherwise exempt (single-action revolver or C&R) you can't import it from out-of-state into CA except by SSE.
                      RSM

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                      • #12
                        Blownmotor
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1334

                        Originally posted by SMR510
                        SSE is your only option.

                        Out of curiosity do you want one without the safeties because you dont want the safeties or because you are having trouble locating the approved model?
                        Both. I called around a few lgs and they laughed when i asked them if they have it in stock and I'm not quite fond of the LCI mainly because of how they made it so ugly.
                        History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes

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                        • #13
                          crazyucbr
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 794

                          Originally posted by SoulStealer
                          Your best bet is to SSE one before the laws change.
                          Wow. When are they gonna try to change the law?
                          "get that evil thing out of the house"

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                          Don at Straightline Tactical in Anaheim
                          Steve at OC Firearms in Fountain Valley.

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                          • #14
                            IPSICK
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4259

                            What gun are you talking about? If it indeed is on the list by SKU, then it doesn't matter if it has LCI or Mag Disco or not.
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                            • #15
                              Blownmotor
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 1334

                              I'm looking into getting a P229 EE but without the LCI and mag disconnect. I see it's on the roster but that "version" has the safeties
                              History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes

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