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  • doger5
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 28

    Glock pistol & reloaded bullets

    A simple question, any Glock owner use reloads in their pistol?

    Over heard a conversation that reloads voids the warrenty. I'm Buying a used 23, for home defense. I like being able to load for the firearms I own. My wife even expressed an interest in shooting it. She prefers .22LR's!
  • #2
    What Just Happened?
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 2504

    I believe that every firearm has a 'void if used with reloads' clause not just with Glocks.

    Glocks do have some causes for concern tho'. They have polygonal rifling which should not be used in conjunction with lead-only projectiles due to leading and increased pressures and KB, yeah. Also, Glocks are said to not have fully-supported chambers which can cause bulging and with repeated reloadings, people are concerned about KB's. I have seen a KB at the base near the extractor groove where one would expect the case separation to occur. The individual does reload and uses a stock barrel. Not sure if lead was used to if it was jacketed.

    Most people to feel that only .40S&W should be of concern, but it was a 9mm that blew up.

    YMMV
    Last edited by What Just Happened?; 04-28-2008, 9:25 PM.

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    • #3
      Librarian
      Admin and Poltergeist
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44680

      Generally two issues with glocks and reloads: barrel leading and !kabooms!.

      The rifling in Glock barrels is reputed to accumulate lead faster than other barrels; using jacketed bullets seems to address that.

      Glock 20 and 21 models (and the compacts, like the 30, I suppose) have what is described as an 'unsupported chamber'. This allows the brass to deform some more than other handguns. That deformation can weaken the cartridges and lead to catastrophic case failure - you can look those up for yourself.

      Reloads are supposed to be generally OK if you carefully inspect your brass before reloading. I've used Miwall commercial reloads with no problem, but I don't reload myself.
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      • #4
        PLINK
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 1773

        I reload 9mm, .40 SW and .45 ACP all for Glocks. I have used my reloads on factory and aftermarket barrels. I now only use Lone Wolf aftermarket barrels because I like moly bullets for the price and the supported chamber allows the brass to last longer (no Glock'ed .40 brass).

        I never experienced a KB in over 5000 rounds of .40 SW.

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        • #5
          eaglemike
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 3946

          One thing I saw cause a KB in fotay - fired out of battery. If you shoot it a lot, keep an eye on all your springs and connectors. It takes a LOT, but things can happen, especially in .4tay.

          I've shot a lot moly-coated lead in Glocks. Sizing is important. Powder choice and charge is also important. Bullet weight and velocity must also be matched. Glocks can be accurate with a 147, but my experience has been the 125 or 135 is a little easier to get to shoot well. Sometimes people try to drive the 147 too slow, and get key-holing. While 231 or BE can work, I like something a bit slower. WSF, Universal Clays.

          Seating depth affects pressures a bunch in 9mm and fotay.

          all the best,

          Mike
          There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

          It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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          • #6
            Voo
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 1702

            i have several glocks and I shoot reloads thru only the 9mm verisons.. both Moly and Jacketed.

            i know it's not recommended.. but the way i see it is this.. does it hurt the gun? NO.. can it? YES, if you allow the lead to build..

            I shoot a ton of ammo.. im very conscious about how much i shoot and how often i scrub my barrel.. i get stares all the time because ill sit there and scrub the crap out of my glock barrel with a brush wrapped with copper chore boy strands.. This doesnt hurt the barrel.. I shot a 3 inch group at 20 yards the other day using my G34.. offhand.. you could cover all the holes using just your fist..

            I personally use bear creeks and zero's. I had 2 sleeves of winchester small pistol primers.. im down to my last 200 right now.. thats nearly 10k of reloads thru my glocks.. i plan on ordering a ton more.. i have no issues with using lead reloads on my glocks..
            Aloha snackbar!

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            • #7
              What Just Happened?
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 2504

              So there you have it. Stories of KB's and people saying they've been fine. The best thing to do - if you want to try lead - is load up a couple yourself and really watch the lead buildup. Maybe shoot 25 check for leading. if good, then increase the count and check. Rinse and repeat until you're satisfied at a round count you can achieve. If not, maybe try another grain and powder.

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              • #8
                MKE
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 563

                I've shot thousands of reloaded FMJ rounds through both my old 2nd gen Glock 19 & 23 for four years...never had any problems. Also, from what I've read, shooting reloaded ammo through a Glock will void the warranty.



                Ref: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/manual.html

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                • #9
                  rue
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1355

                  Originally posted by doger5
                  A simple question, any Glock owner use reloads in their pistol?

                  Over heard a conversation that reloads voids the warrenty. I'm Buying a used 23, for home defense. I like being able to load for the firearms I own. My wife even expressed an interest in shooting it. She prefers .22LR's!
                  If you are going to use it for self defense don't use reloads for the rounds you plan on using for self defense.
                  Originally posted by halifax
                  How about the next time a kid gets suspended/expelled for simply drawing a picture of a gun. I see a federal civil rights lawsuit against the school district for violation of 1st & 2nd amendments.


                  Originally posted by CA357
                  I am getting old and my bull***** tolerance is rapidly diminishing.

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                  • #10
                    Giovani X
                    Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 209

                    So is there any real way to tell if the shooter was using reloads or factory ammo?

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                    • #11
                      railroader
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3115

                      I have a glock 17 and all I shoot is my reloads. I mainly shoot moly and lead bullets. I also went with a lone wolf barrel just to be on the safe side. Mark

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                      • #12
                        JTROKS
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 13093

                        So is there any real way to tell if the shooter was using reloads or factory ammo?
                        Only when you blow up the gun.
                        The wise man said just find your place
                        In the eye of the storm
                        Seek the roses along the way
                        Just beware of the thorns...
                        K. Meine

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                        • #13
                          Voo
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1702

                          Originally posted by JTROKS
                          Only when you blow up the gun.
                          and exactly still, how would you know if the owner had shot reloads?

                          unless you can find some obvious fault with the barrel right away, it's really hard to find indicators if reloads had been shot or not.. even if you find a crack or a bulge, it still doenst mean the owner had shot reloads, only that something went terribly wrong..

                          generally speaking though, factory ammo tends to be MUCH more consistent and safer to shoot than reloads. I almost never shoot anyone else's "reloaded" ammo thru my glock.. i barely trust my own reloads
                          Aloha snackbar!

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                          • #14
                            bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20826

                            Originally posted by Voo
                            and exactly still, how would you know if the owner had shot reloads?

                            unless you can find some obvious fault with the barrel right away, it's really hard to find indicators if reloads had been shot or not.. even if you find a crack or a bulge, it still doenst mean the owner had shot reloads, only that something went terribly wrong..

                            generally speaking though, factory ammo tends to be MUCH more consistent and safer to shoot than reloads. I almost never shoot anyone else's "reloaded" ammo thru my glock.. i barely trust my own reloads
                            i assume if you send in the fragments for warranty repair they will ask you what ammo you were using and if the barrel chunks are full of lead streaks and you tell them an ammo that is copper jacketed they will know something fishy is going on


                            so who makes a lead bullet loading for 9mm that is commercially available

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                            • #15
                              What Just Happened?
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2504

                              Originally posted by bohoki
                              i assume if you send in the fragments for warranty repair they will ask you what ammo you were using and if the barrel chunks are full of lead streaks and you tell them an ammo that is copper jacketed they will know something fishy is going on


                              so who makes a lead bullet loading for 9mm that is commercially available
                              I believe the point was that any reloads void the warranty, not just non-jacketed reloads.

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