Anyone have an opinion on 1858 new army cartridge gun?

[drclark]

Seems like there have been a flurry of threads about single action revolvers as of late.

Anyone have any opinions on the cimarron 1858 army conversion? I've been leaning toward getting one in .45 colt. Mostly as a range toy. I like the fairly unique look with the hexagonal barrel as opposed to an SAA clone.

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Conversions/58NewModArmyConv.htm

thanks,
drc

[bear93445]

I got one for my 1858 Remington replica made by Pietta in .44 cal. Unfortunately, the timing was off and I could not use it. I purchased it through Brownells and they were kind enough to replace it. The second one still did not time properly so I returned it for my money back. I have since learned that although this is not a common problem, it does happen often enough to be a known issue. I have talked to a couple of people that have successfully converted their pistol to cartridge and they where quite happy with the results. Good luck

[Scarecrow Repair]

I have a conversion cylinder for my 1858 Remington replica. I couldn't tell you right now who made either. It's an interesting addition. It certainly is cleaner, but black powder still leaves a lot of dirt around. Reloading is slower than you might think, since you have to remove the cylinder, take off the back, poke out each chamber, reload, put the back on again, and put the cylinder back in. They also warn about no dryfires which I don't really understand if the cartridge is still in the chamber, but if you want to avoid dryfires, you better keep track of how many shots are left.

I have had thoughts about it being a nice cheap home defense gun, and not registered, but the reload time is pretty slow. On the other hand, you can keep the cartridges loaded longer than cap and ball.

[redcliff]

The Cimmaron he posted can use smokeless powder and features an ejector rod if I'm not mistaken.

My experiences have been with Cimmaron's Colt based conversion models and they're a lot of fun to shoot.

[Sgt Raven]

I have a Navy Arms stainless steel Pietta '58 and a Kirst conversion cylinder for it. It's one of my CAS pistols and it works well. I use smokeless loads in it, you just have to buy loads designed for original Colt pistols not +P loads.

[tonelar]

Their 58 cartridge pistol is definitely unique. Cimarron is a terrific supplier of Uberti pistols. I haven't seen this one at any of the local shoots, but you really can't go wrong with Cimarron or Navy Arms. Their other Remy clones (75? and 78) are great SA pistols. I shot some in .357 and really liked their balance.

Only caveat I have is the Rem grip frame is slimmer than the colts'. If you have large hands you might find it awkward.

[ricknadine1111]

Seems like there have been a flurry of threads about single action revolvers as of late.

Anyone have any opinions on the cimarron 1858 army conversion? I've been leaning toward getting one in .45 colt. Mostly as a range toy. I like the fairly unique look with the hexagonal barrel as opposed to an SAA clone.

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Conversions/58NewModArmyConv.htm

thanks,
drc

44-40 just like the old days

[Parag]

I bought a .45LC revolver just like that one (looks *exactly* the same), only mine is made by Uberti. Built for cartridges by the factory so it had to be purchased through an FFL.

The octagonal barrel, the unfluted cylinder, and the wood grips all called to me.

It is nicely balanced - better than the long barrel would make it seem. It's also fairly accurate. The smaller grip doesn't bother me, much to my surprise. The loading-lever look-alike is actually a springless ejection rod. No transfer-bar although perhaps it could be added (firing pin is not mounted on the hammer).

-- Parag