Glock 17 failure in slow motion

[MilitaryArms]

I posted a video a few weeks ago about limp wrist failures. Here's the original video.



There was some discussion on the forums as to what was actually happening during such failures. This prompted me to break out the 1000 frame per second slow motion camera to see what exactly does happen during a "limp wrist" malfunction.

[JWHuey]

Cool vid MAC. Is this a Glock specific problem,or polymer handguns in general?

[sfbay]

Great video!

[HighLander51]

It's only how you grip the gun, any gun. Good grip, no failure, even upside down weak handed....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSa5utWsxcI

[MilitaryArms]

It's only how you grip the gun, any gun. Good grip, no failure, even upside down weak handed....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSa5utWsxcI

While grip is critical, it's more critical with ligher framed handguns. The less mass in a frame of a particular handgun the more likely it is to be limp wristed through an improper grip (see the first video link as I show several handguns).

The Glock has the lightest frame on the market for a full sized handgun. This means it's the easiest to induce such malfunctions in. That's the trade off. For the light weight you get a pistol that's more sensitive to the way it's held. If you go for an all steel handgun like the CZ75 then limp wrist malfunctions are far less likely but the increased weight makes it less comfortable to carry.

As with most things it's a compromise.

I selected a Glock for this video series because it's the most susceptible to the failures. As a Range Master for years I watched people struggle with such malfunctions with newly purchased Glock 9mm pistols. The story was the same; the new shooter had malfunction after malfunction but when a more experienced shooter picked the same gun up and fired it, they had no malfunctions.

[MrExel17]

Right on MAC, always great vids. Thanks for sharing!

[only10x]

subscribed!
nice vid, would have seen it on a 1911

[HighLander51]

While grip is critical, it's more critical with ligher framed handguns. The less mass in a frame of a particular handgun the more likely it is to be limp wristed through an improper grip (see the first video link as I show several handguns).

The Glock has the lightest frame on the market for a full sized handgun. This means it's the easiest to induce such malfunctions in. That's the trade off. For the light weight you get a pistol that's more sensitive to the way it's held. If you go for an all steel handgun like the CZ75 then limp wrist malfunctions are far less likely but the increased weight makes it less comfortable to carry.

As with most things it's a compromise.

I selected a Glock for this video series because it's the most susceptible to the failures. As a Range Master for years I watched people struggle with such malfunctions with newly purchased Glock 9mm pistols. The story was the same; the new shooter had malfunction after malfunction but when a more experienced shooter picked the same gun up and fired it, they had no malfunctions.

I only know from my experience shooting Glocks in competition since 1992, USPSA/Steel Challenge,3 Gun and IDPA, and local action matches, that I have never been able to make it do that, weak or strong hand.

[ontmark]

Thanks for sharing
I was out shooting once and the guy next to me in the forest was shooting a Glock with his wife and doing draw and double and triple tap drill at his target stands. His presentation was good with follow up of threat assessment before returning to holster. I was with family and just doing some multiple engagement drills myself. Started talking to him and asked if I could try his Glock. Never shot a Glock before. Apparently he had a trigger lighting package done on it and with my first shot with it I had a stove pipe. I knew it was due to limp wrist. After that I ran it well. It does happen with the lighter framed 9mms. My brother has had it happen with his SP2022 at a range while shooting it from the waist. I will stay with my SIGs and my S&W 659.

[foreppin916]

wow I didnt know you were a member here mac! long time subscriber and viewer just wanted to say thank you for the free educational info and especially the 2ND AMENDMENT stuff. You have a lot of viewers so im sure you generated many letters to congressmen and women. Now back on topic lol....

Im curious as to if their are any other pistols with a similar problem? When I was young, probably 8 or 9 my fathers Beretta 92 used to jam every single round I fired.

[newguy83]

im sure the NiB coating wasn't helping either