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  • Spawn
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 619

    Carrying in the workplace

    My girlfriend works in a small restaurant as a cashier. The area is kind of rough and sometimes robberies happen. I hear that a person can carry on private property and it's legal. She is 19. What can she do?
  • #2
    SouperMan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1463



    Start there.

    Edit:

    And here:

    http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/21_or_Older_for_Handguns
    Last edited by SouperMan; 03-06-2013, 3:22 PM.

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    • #3
      HighLander51
      Banned
      • Feb 2010
      • 5144

      Only if she has the written permission of the owner, have no idea about the age limit though. Don't you have to be 21?

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      • #4
        wsmc27
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1654

        Originally posted by TheRedWolf
        My girlfriend works in a small restaurant as a cashier. The area is kind of rough and sometimes robberies happen. I hear that a person can carry on private property and it's legal. She is 19. What can she do?
        Are you referring to loaded open carry? No cc afaik without a permit, despite it being place of business if she is a cashier. Or, is she the owners' daughter? We've loc at a couple different work locations over the years, but were related directly to the property/business owner in one case (thanks Dad, RIP), and had direct permission from another property owner and handled quite a bit of money on occasion.

        $0.02: Get some training before evenhttp://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/4/2/1/2/s12026
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        "California Penal Code 12031 PC -- Carrying loaded firearms. ("(h) Nothing in this section shall prevent any person engaged in any lawful business, including a nonprofit organization, or any officer, employee, or agent authorized by that person for lawful purposes connected with that business, from having a loaded firearm within the person's place of business, or any person in lawful possession of private property from having a loaded firearm on that property...(l) Nothing in this section shall prevent any person from having a loaded weapon, if it is otherwise lawful, at his or her place of residence, including any temporary residence or campsite.")

        See also People v. Barela (1991) 234 Cal.App.3d Supp. 15, 20, regarding definition of "place of business". ("The legislative statement of purpose makes clear that an employee must have a possessory interest in his or her workplace in order for that workplace to be considered the employee's "place of business" under section 12026. Only those employees who have the right to exclude others from their workplace, and the right to control activities there, may carry concealed weapons at work without a permit or license.") This is why open carry is permissible in these types of locations."

        source: http://www.shouselaw.com/open-carry.html
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        • #5
          DVSmith
          Cantankerous old coot
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2007
          • 3702

          Originally posted by TheRedWolf
          What can she do?
          She can get a job somewhere else.

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          • #6
            tal3nt
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 3168

            Get her some bear spray

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            • #7
              myk
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2012
              • 5955

              Originally posted by DVSmith
              She can get a job somewhere else.
              THIS. No job is worth the potential of becoming involved in a violent altercation and/or having to use a firearm to protect yourself. Granted, there are fewer places in the world that we can consider "safe," but why not stack the odds in your favor. I would relocate ASAP; using a gun is an absolute last, and final resort...


              I don't always save the world, but when I do, it's in 24 hours or less...

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              • #8
                ElDub1950
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2012
                • 5688

                WSMC gave you the legal stuff. If she can get the owner's permission she could open carry in the place.

                Don't consider any of it until she has lots of excellent training.

                Best answer .. help her find another job and if necessary you find another job and move.

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