Where does it say in the Penal Code....

[BlackReef]

..That I must transport my Handgun in a locked container, seperate from the Ammunition?


Thanks
Joe

[saxman]

afaik, it does not

[Matt C]

It does not, anyone suggesting such is a FUD spreader.

[InvictusManeo]

IIRC, last time this was brought up it was determined that that isn't law, but most LEOs will still make it worth while to keep them separate.

And if there's ANY PHYSICAL POSSIBILITY, no matter how low the probability, that the weapon could become loaded without the case being opened (through movement, bumping, etc.) you're going to be seriously hurting.

[mymonkeyman]

IIRC, last time this was brought up it was determined that that isn't law, but most LEOs will still make it worth while to keep them separate.

And if there's ANY PHYSICAL POSSIBILITY, no matter how low the probability, that the weapon could become loaded without the case being opened (through movement, bumping, etc.) you're going to be seriously hurting.

There's a non-zero probability that the ammo in my house right now will quantum tunnel into the gun in your car miles away.

[hawk1]

The only reference I read to it having to be in a locked container was if you do not have a trunk to put it in. And in order to be exempted from section 12025 (carring a concealed weapon).

[quote]
California Penal Code Section 12026.1

(a) Section 12025 shall not be construed to prohibit any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides or is temporarily within this state, and who is not within the excepted classes prescribed by Section 12021 or 12021.1 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, from transporting or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, provided that the following applies to the firearm:

(1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the vehicle's trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle other than the utility or glove compartment.

(2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying the firearm, the firearm is contained within a locked container.

(b) The provisions of this section do not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful carrying or transportation of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in accordance with this chapter.

(c) As used in this section, "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device.

[InvictusManeo]

There's a non-zero probability that the ammo in my house right now will quantum tunnel into the gun in your car miles away.

And a higher probability that someone will try to prosecute you for owning ammunition based on that non-zero. Or prosecute me for having a "loaded" firearm, even though there is not currently any ammo in my car at all.

[aplinker]

If you're on your way to or from committing a felony you should keep it separate as there are PC provisions here...

Also, if you're a gang member, you should keep them separate as, again, there are PC issues...

If either of the above apply, please turn yourself into the PD immediately.

A lot of people who can't comprehend reading (or just listen to other people's FUD) think the no ammo/gun carrying or together provisions are for the law abiding.

[hawk1]

The only other reference as uclaplinker say's is in regards to a "loaded weapon" and how a loaded weapon is described as ammuntion "in the immediate possesion of the same person" with regards to "a commission or attempted commission of a felony".

[mike100]

FUD

[aplinker]

FUD

ha ha

[Matt C]

FUD

It's Fuderiffic!

[fairfaxjim]

FUD

Seems pretty cheesy to me!