Ammo Reviews?

[ahead]

Hey guys, been looking online for some ammo reviews (different brands), but not coming up with anything thats worth looking at. since you guys seem to have shot all kinds of ammo from the cheap to the pricey can you guys post reviews with cal/specs of the ammo you shot maybe along with what you shot it out of? help a new guy out who is concerened about the quality of the ammo he will be firing out of his brand new gun, who also wants to gain some knowledge. im shooting a 9mm HK P2000 V3, mainly for range and also HD. feel free to post what helped you when you were starting out. thanks

[50BMGBOB]

Each gun is differant but what I do is find what I want for a HD round,(I like HydraShocks) and then find the cheapest ammo that feeds and has an impact the same (same sighting). The cheap stuff won't group as tight but I can practice more.

[paradox]

Read through http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bi...ultimatebb.cgi especially the terminal effects forum.

The short of it is, for pistol calibers use the latest generation hollow points: Gold Dots, Rangers, & HST. These are the ones developed to pass the FBIs expanded testing. If you've got a friend in the police force, you may be able to get copies of the FBI data directly.

from http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm

Fact: The details of the FBI test protocol:
Test Event 1: Bare Gelatin

The gelatin block is bare and shot at a range of ten feet measured from the muzzle to the front of the block. This test event correlates FBI results with those being obtained by other researchers, few of whom shoot into anything other than bare gelatin. It is common to obtain the greatest bullet expansion in this test. Rounds which do not meet the standards against bare gelatin tend to be unreliable in the more practical test events that follow.

Test Event 2: Heavy Clothing

The gelatin block is covered with four layers of clothing: One layer of cotton T-Shirt material (48 threads per inch); one layer of cotton shirt material (80 threads per inch); a 10 ounce down comforter in cambric shell cover (232 threads per inch); and one layer of 13 ounce cotton denim (50 threads per inch). This simulates typical cold weather wear. The block is shot at ten feet, measured from the muzzle to the front of the block.

Test Event 3: Steel

Two pieces of 20 gauge, hot rolled steel with a galvanized finish are set three inches apart. The steel is in six-inch squares. The gelatin block is covered with light clothing and placed 18 inches behind the rear most piece of steel. The shot is made at a distance of I0 feet measured from the muzzle to the front of the first piece of steel. Light clothing is one layer of cotton T-shirt material and one layer of cotton shirt material and is used in all subsequent test events. The steel is the heaviest gauge steel commonly found in automobile doors. This test simulates the weakest part of a car door. In all car doors, there is an area, or areas, where the heaviest obstacle is nothing more than two pieces of 20 gauge steel.

Test Event 4: Wallboard

Two pieces of half-inch standard gypsum board are set 3.5 inches apart. The pieces are six inches square. The gelatin block is covered with light clothing and set 18 inches behind the rear most piece of gypsum. The shot is made ten feet, measured from the muzzle to the front surface of the first piece of gypsum. This test event simulates a typical interior building wall.

Test Event 5: Plywood

One piece of three-quarter inch AA fir plywood is used. The piece is six inches square. The gelatin block is covered with light clothing and set 18 inches behind the rear surface of the plywood. The shot is made at ten feet, measured from the muzzle to the front surface of the plywood. This test event simulates the resistance of typical wooden doors or construction timbers.

Test Event 6: Automobile Glass

One piece of A.S.I. one-quarter inch laminated automobile safety glass measuring 15 x 18 inches is set at an angle of 45 degrees to the horizontal. The line of bore of the weapon is offset 15 degrees to the side, resulting in a compound angle of impact for the bullet upon the glass. The gelatin block is covered with light clothing and set 18 inches behind the glass. The shot is made at ten feet, measured from the muzzle to the center of the glass pane. This test event with its two angles simulates a shot taken at the driver of a car from the left front quarter of the vehicle and not directly in front of it.

Test Event 7: Heavy Clothing at 20 yards

This event repeats test event 2 but at the range of 20 yards, measured from the muzzle to the front of the gelatin. This test event assesses the effects of increased range and consequently decreased velocity.

Test Event 8: Automobile Glass at 20 yards

This event repeats test event 6 but at a range of 20 yards, measured from the muzzle to the front of the glass and without the 15 degree offset. This shot is made from straight in front of the glass, simulating a shot at the driver of a car bearing down on the shooter.

In addition to the above described series of test events, each cartridge is tested for velocity and accuracy. Twenty rounds are fired through a test barrel and twenty rounds are fired through the service weapon used in the penetration tests.

Two ten-shot groups are fired from the test barrel and two ten-shot groups from the service weapon used, at 25 yards. They are measured from center to center of the two most widely spaced holes, averaged and reported.

Also, DO NOT use hydrashoks, they have a nasty habit of not expanding if they have to go through fabric before they hit flesh. I guess you would be safe if you live in a nudest colony, but packing could be uncomfortable....