Glock USA and CA

[Teachu2]

With Glock starting to produce guns in the USA, California has added yet another nail to the coffin. From the CA DOJ website:

No Generation 4 Glock handguns have been approved as of: Monday, February 11, 2013

No Glock handguns made in the USA have been approved as of: Monday, February 11, 2013

The G4s were always not approved, but now we cannot get US-made G3s, either - unless we go SSE. That limits us to Austrian-made G3s, and shops here are saying that means NO NEW GLOCKS in CA.

Anyone here have more insight on this?

[fremont lapua]

I like the gen 4, so I just do the SSE. I hope the whole roster goes away soon, it is just a tool California uses to ban perfectly good and SAFE handguns.


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[Quiet]

It's CA DOJ being 5h17h34d5 and saying Glock USA is a different company than Glock.
So, any handguns made by Glock USA are from a different manufacturer.
Meaning they need to have chamber load indicators and magazine disconnect mechanisms.

Not sure why they are doing this, since they allowed Para-Ordnance (Canada) to switch over to ParaUSA (USA) without any problems with getting handguns on the Roster.

[far from tactical]

May have to pick one up... Just to say I have a USA made glock in time

[TommyOC]

When i bought my glock in CA it was a made in usa. Think they made an uh oh on that one. But I sold it already and the PPT went through no problem as well.

[Teachu2]

It's CA DOJ being 5h17h34d5 and saying Glock USA is a different company than Glock.
So, any handguns made by Glock USA are from a different manufacturer.
Meaning they need to have chamber load indicators and magazine disconnect mechanisms.

Not sure why they are doing this, since they allowed Para-Ordnance (Canada) to switch over to ParaUSA (USA) without any problems with getting handguns on the Roster.

NAFTA, maybe?

[WWDHD?]

It's CA DOJ being 5h17h34d5 and saying Glock USA is a different company than Glock.
So, any handguns made by Glock USA are from a different manufacturer.
Meaning they need to have chamber load indicators and magazine disconnect mechanisms.

Not sure why they are doing this, since they allowed Para-Ordnance (Canada) to switch over to ParaUSA (USA) without any problems with getting handguns on the Roster.

Maybe Glock will sue CA since they let another company make this change. That would be an interesting case to follow and bring attention to this stupid, non-sensical "Safe Handgun list" where LEO's agencies can purchase and use "Unsafe Handguns" but the general population cannot (unless you SSE, of course). Most people I talk to that aren't into this subject like we all are don't know this is going on.

[pakk]

I have a hard time believing Glock will just allow the CA market to go away from their business. I'm sure they are working on something.

[uhlan1]

Maybe Glock will sue CA since they let another company make this change. That would be an interesting case to follow and bring attention to this stupid, non-sensical "Safe Handgun list" where LEO's agencies can purchase and use "Unsafe Handguns" but the general population cannot (unless you SSE, of course). Most people I talk to that aren't into this subject like we all are don't know this is going on.

Nor do they care, sheeple.

[SouperMan]

With Glock starting to produce guns in the USA, California has added yet another nail to the coffin. From the CA DOJ website:

No Generation 4 Glock handguns have been approved as of: Monday, February 11, 2013

No Glock handguns made in the USA have been approved as of: Monday, February 11, 2013

The G4s were always not approved, but now we cannot get US-made G3s, either - unless we go SSE. That limits us to Austrian-made G3s, and shops here are saying that means NO NEW GLOCKS in CA.

Anyone here have more insight on this?

You are correct that Gen 4 Glocks are not approved; as Glock will not put the "California mandated" Loaded Chamber Indicator and Magazine Disconnect. You should see the SIG P229 that had this happen to it and the before and after pics buried somewhere here. The thing looks hideous.

It will be a very interesting day when Glock does this...or exits the California market but I don't see this happening. Why? As long as Glock pays the annual certification fee, they can continue to re-certify Gen 3s for sale in California.

For more reading, consult your local library or http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/The_Safe_Handgun_List

[Librarian]

[Hold_Breath]

Glock most-likely looks at Kalifornia as a Sh*t-bug... like the rest of us.

If y'all don't care enough to fix your Soviet legislature... why the Hell should we?

You come to a California site and CA-bash? Aren't you just the sweetest thing.

Here's the reality - gun owners are outnumbered in California by voters who either are anti-gun or unconcerned about them. Like most places, we have a set of broadcast and print media the never shows guns, gun owners, or gun use in a positive light. San Diego, Los Angeles, San Jose and San Francisco are the anti-gun dogs that wag the rest of the state.

Some gun owners are certainly not helping. The classic is attempting to get gun owners to register to vote, and then vote, and get back 'I don't want to be on any list' as they walk away. In case anyone has not figured it out, Sacramento doesn't need 'lists' to come after your guns.

Those of us who care certainly care enough. It's that there is not enough of us.

[Lead Waster]

Well, either CA DOJ just wants Glock to pay again to recertify the Gen3s and Glock just needs to do that ...

OR

CA DOJ is saying. Well, we're not letting the Gen3 Glocks that are now made in the US get on the roster because there is no Grandfathering of any product made by Glock USA, since no Glocks were ever sold pre-roster in CA, that are marked "Made in the USA".

Assuming that Glock did not move ALL of it's pistol production to the US, that should mean that the Austrian made Glock, gen 3 guns are still able to be on the roster. ie; CA will allow Austrian made Gen 3 Glocks to be sold, but no USA made Gen 3 Glocks to be sold.

[ScottsBad]

It's CA DOJ being 5h17h34d5 and saying Glock USA is a different company than Glock.
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HA, took me a second to get the 5h17h34d5 reference, hadn't seen that before.

Yes, CA is run by anti-gun jerks. I'd love to have a G4 glock, but crap I don't want to go through the BS.

Looks like its only going to get worse too.

[Cyc Wid It]

Apparently going to a place that does exemptions is "a lot of BS"?

[wsmc27]

I have a hard time believing Glock will just allow the CA market to go away from their business. I'm sure they are working on something.

I read this last month, posted elsewhere by someone that may have knowledge:

"Thake this to the bank. Call it a press release.

ALL Glocks now have 7 digits. doesn't matter if they are made in the US or Austria. Glock ran out of 6 digits to use.

The Glock made in America are 100% copies of those made in Austria. Glock takes the same view Barretta does, location does not matter. CA-DOJ has requested samples of the US made guns. This is to make sure both are the same.

Glock assured both are identical. I took two apart today, ALL 33 parts are the same. Glock is shipping into CA and doesn't see a problem. People are DROS the US guns also."

Source: http://www.calccw.com/Forums/general...tml#post285357

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