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  • bigguns85
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1127

    gun building



    So I have a question about making a gun from scratch. I am wondering if it is legal to build an uzi or skorpion? I have seen kits online but want to know if they are ca legal. Also I am wondering is this legal in calie? (see link.)
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    Arisaka
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    • Dec 2010
    • 2153

    Sure you can build an Uzi or Skorpion. But that Beretta stock is a no go without an SBR stamp as far as I know.
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    • #3
      bigguns85
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 1127

      could I have an under folding stock for the uzi and an over folding stock for the skorpion? aslo is that carbine kit legal for a handgun or does it make it into an illegal short barreled rifle?
      Last edited by bigguns85; 02-09-2013, 12:23 AM.
      Norman Thomas - "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing what happened.
      Winston Churchill -We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - If you have ten thousand regulations, you destroy all respect for the law. "

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        bigguns85
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 1127

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        Norman Thomas - "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing what happened.
        Winston Churchill -We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - If you have ten thousand regulations, you destroy all respect for the law. "

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        • #5
          JeremyS
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 2014

          Originally posted by bigguns85
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          Also I am wondering is this legal in cali? (see link.)
          Originally posted by bigguns85
          could I have an under folding stock for the uzi and an over folding stock for the skorpion? aslo is that carbine kit legal for a handgun or does it make it into an illegal short barreled rifle?
          NOT Legal. No, no, no. NO stocks on pistols. That is, without approval from the ATF and payment of your $200 NFA tax stamp. Adding a shoulder stock to a pistol makes it a Short Barrel Rifle, which is a Class III (NFA-regulated) firearm. Doing this would be a Federal felony, punishable by 10 years in Federal Prison.

          Additionally, California doesn't allow SBR's no matter what, so you cannot go through the legal steps to get this in your state anyway. Federally they are okay, but the States can still ban them. Unfortunately, even in WA here SBR's are not allowed. I do have a suppressor now that I have moved here, and some other NFA items are okay, but no SBR's here either


          Now... all of that said, you CAN have a folding (regardless of over, under, or to the side) stock on an Uzi or Skorpion IF if has at least a 16" barrel and, with the stock folded, still meets minimum overall length requirements of a rifle. In this case, yes, it would be a rifle. You can purchase lots of Uzi variants that are legally rifles. This is the only way to have a shoulder stock and avoid NFA regulations.
          Last edited by JeremyS; 02-09-2013, 12:31 AM.
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            bigguns85
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 1127

            Originally posted by JeremyS
            NOT Legal. No, no, no. NO stocks on pistols. That is, without approval from the ATF and payment of your $200 NFA tax stamp. Adding a shoulder stock to a pistol makes it a Short Barrel Rifle, which is a Class III (NFA-regulated) firearm. Doing this would be a Federal felony, punishable by 10 years in Federal Prison.

            Additionally, California doesn't allow SBR's no matter what, so you cannot go through the legal steps to get this in your state anyway. Federally they are okay, but the States can still ban them. Unfortunately, even in WA here SBR's are not allowed. I do have a suppressor now that I have moved here, and some other NFA items are okay, but no SBR's here either


            Now... all of that said, you CAN have a folding (regardless of over, under, or to the side) stock on an Uzi or Skorpion IF if has at least a 16" barrel and, with the stock folded, still meets minimum overall length requirements of a rifle. In this case, yes, it would be a rifle. You can purchase lots of Uzi variants that are legally rifles. This is the only way to have a shoulder stock and avoid NFA regulations.
            So I can have the Uzi and Skorpion with the folding fram stocks say with a 6 or 7 inch barrel?

            Also what is the gun laws like in WA im thinking of moving there. Do you know of any website like calguns for washington? are you allowed to have hi cap mags?
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            Winston Churchill -We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - If you have ten thousand regulations, you destroy all respect for the law. "

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            • #7
              SMR510
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Nov 2008
              • 883

              Originally posted by JeremyS
              you CAN have a folding stock IF it has at least a 16" barrel and, with the stock folded, still meets minimum overall length requirements of a rifle.
              Originally posted by bigguns85
              So I can have the Uzi and Skorpion with the folding fram stocks say with a 6 or 7 inch barrel?
              Your question has already been answered.

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