Gunlocks-Caifornia for PPT

[Maddawg46]

Do I need a gun lock for a PPT?

[Brandon04GT]

Depends on your situation.

[fmunk]

Generally, yes. No, if you have a DOJ approved safe and are willing to sign a safe affidavit.

[keenkeen]

Generally, yes. No, if you have a DOJ approved safe and are willing to sign a safe affidavit.

Safe affidavit does not work for a handgun...only long guns.

[fmunk]

Safe affidavit does not work for a handgun...only long guns.

Ha, then one shop I went to didn't know what they were doing. Not surprised.

[keenkeen]

Ha, then one shop I went to didn't know what they were doing. Not surprised.

Pretty common...never look a gift horse in the mouth!

[TommyOC]

In LA City they make you buy one with your PPT, even if one is coming with the gun. Apparently they need proof of sale for a lock to "prove" that the owner has one. I think it's all LA city, but some seem to think stores make it up to make more money but who knows

[TERRYGER]

you need a gunlock to carry the handgun out of the store. it can be one of yours but you better have a receipt that says you bought it within 30 days of using it. understand it is that way with rifles now too.

[Librarian]

Again, the whole story is at the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_Laws

[uhlan1]

I have always signed a safe affidavit at quite a number of gun stores for PPT's and mostly handguns. I have never had to buy a lock.

[Quiet]

Usually...
When I do a PPT of a handgun, I stop by my local Wal-Mart first (it's on the way there) and buy a gunlock.
During the PPT, I show the lock & receipt for the lock to the CA FFL dealer, who makes a copy of the receipt.
Afterwards, I go back to my local Wal-Mart (it's on the way back home) and return the gunlock.

[keenkeen]

I have always signed a safe affidavit at quite a number of gun stores for PPT's and mostly handguns. I have never had to buy a lock.

Lots of "cool" shops out there I guess?

[Mr357magnum]

In LA City they make you buy one with your PPT, even if one is coming with the gun. Apparently they need proof of sale for a lock to "prove" that the owner has one. I think it's all LA city, but some seem to think stores make it up to make more money but who knows

A newly purchased lock is necessary because they need a receipt dated within 10 days before delivery. Also, it must be a 'California Approved' lock.

So I can definitely understand why dealers only accept locks purchased the day of pickup at their own store. its not the dealers rules.

[5.0Driver]

"California law will accept many items to satisfy this requirement - a lock, a safe, a lock-box, or an internal lock designed into the firearm - as a 'firearms safety device'"

Ahh, so that explains why my Springfield 1911 didn't come with a cable lock and my XD did.

[Libertarian71]

A newly purchased lock is necessary because they need a receipt dated within 10 days before delivery. Also, it must be a 'California Approved' lock.

So I can definitely understand why dealers only accept locks purchased the day of pickup at their own store. its not the dealers rules.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Buying_and_selling_firearms_in_California#Locks.2C_Safes.2C_and_Laws

Not if a lock accompanies the transfer. In other words, if the PPT seller is including the original lock with the transfer, you do not need to purchase a new one. You only need to purchase a new one if the PPT is not accompanied with a lock. Many dealers abuse this rule, and make you purchase one of their locks even if the PPT is accompanied with the original lock. Do not do business with those dealers.