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  • SFShep
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 189

    P229 replacement barrel problems

    Several months ago I replaced my factory .40S&W barrel on my P229 with a factory replacement .347SIG barrel. While it operates, I have noticed my groups tend to place a bit low, about 2 inches below the point of aim from 7 yards away.

    I showed the gun to a friend of mine and he noticed a wide gap between the top of the barrel and the barrel opening in the slide. He says the replacement barrel probably isn't seating right. He recommended having a SIG armorer either reseat the barrel or take off some of the top of the front sight to bring the barrel back into alignment.

    Which of these sounds more feasible (and less expensive)? Is this a commonplace problem with the factory replacement barrels? Anyone have other alternate ideas?
  • #2
    dachan
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1973

    Shoot center of mass and 2" won't make any difference.

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    • #3
      aca72
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 3248

      Check your sight numbers maybe?

      40 S&W and .45 ACP are usually #8 REAR / #6 FRONT
      9mm and .357 Sig are #8 REAR / #8 FRONT
      Long live CALGUNS!

      Selling: ✮ GLOCK ✮ Beretta ✮ SIG Sauer ✮ Stuff ✮

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      • #4
        9mmepiphany
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 8075

        These are two unrelated issues...I wouldn't call them problems of manufacture, they are both exactly as designed.

        1. Shooting lower: Did you really expect the .40, throwing a sub-sonic 180gr bullet, to have the same Point Of Impact (POI) as the 357SIG (there is no decimal in it's designation), which throws a 125gr bullet supersonically?

        When shooting a 229 with both barrels, you need to decide which cartridge you want it zeroed for...or install adjustable sights

        2. Gap around barrel: This is also normal. All SIGs in the Classic P-series have this gap...it is how the barrel locks up in the slide. The hole (channel) in the slide is drilled at a downward angle...to allow the barrel to tilt back (up) when it unlocks...when in battery, the barrel locks up against the bottom of the barrel at the front of this channel and the top at the rear of the channel.

        If you look at the smilies on your barrel, you'll see that they start further back on the top...that shows you the different areas when the barrel is locked to the slide
        ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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        • #5
          jeffrice6
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2006
          • 5172

          One reason I don't swap calibers ~ Pick the firearm and caliber you desire and stick with it. If you want to try something else, buy that pistol. Always more negatives than positive when doing caliber swaps.
          WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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          • #6
            SFShep
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 189

            Originally posted by aca72
            Check your sight numbers maybe?

            40 S&W and .45 ACP are usually #8 REAR / #6 FRONT
            9mm and .357 Sig are #8 REAR / #8 FRONT
            Just confirmed with Sig Sauer Customer Service that this is the way to fix the problem, switching out the #6 sight for the #8 sight.

            Problem is they are backordered on them along with other retailers I've looked online. Anyone know where they may be in stock? Either online or brick-and-mortar locations?
            Last edited by SFShep; 01-31-2013, 11:14 AM. Reason: updating situation

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            • #7
              Mani226
              Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Jun 2010
              • 344

              topgunsupply.com
              midwayusa.com

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              • #8
                ejhc11
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 1214

                You must shoot better than me I didn't notice the difference in mine. I'm just happy both calibers make nice tight groupings.... It ain't no match gun, its a combat pistol.

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                • #9
                  9mmepiphany
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 8075

                  Originally posted by ejhc11
                  It ain't no match gun, its a combat pistol.
                  It may not be a match gun, but I've never shot a 229 that wouldn't hold about 1" at 7 yards.

                  I've always seen two distinct points of impact when switching between .40 and 357SIG
                  ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                  • #10
                    ejhc11
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1214

                    You are correct, that's why I've been on a Sig Buying spree. Just bought two in two weeks, P229R, and P220R Carry. It will go with the other family members, P220 full size, P229, & SP2022. It does shoot very well, better than an HK USP for me.
                    Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                    It may not be a match gun, but I've never shot a 229 that wouldn't hold about 1" at 7 yards.

                    I've always seen two distinct points of impact when switching between .40 and 357SIG

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                    • #11
                      SFShep
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 189

                      the quest deepens

                      Originally posted by SFShep
                      Just confirmed with Sig Sauer Customer Service that this is the way to fix the problem, switching out the #6 sight for the #8 sight.

                      Problem is they are backordered on them along with other retailers I've looked online. Anyone know where they may be in stock? Either online or brick-and-mortar locations?
                      Seems my quest for better sightage is deepening. I switched back to the .40S&W factory barrel that came with my original gun and the 6/8 sight configuration. And I'm still shooting low.

                      So I did some more research. And to my embarrassment it seems I've been using the wrong sight picture all along. According to Sig's website I am not supposed to do what I've been trained to do traditionally which is to align the sights with the target above them. I am instead supposed to align them with the sights covering up the target (as if I'm looking at the bullseye right through the white dot):


                      I called Sig Sauer and asked how I can change this configuration and they recommended replacing the rear sight with a higher one like the #10 which they sait should bring my shots into alignment with the traditional sight picture I've been trained on.

                      But it seems they're backordered on #10 rear sights too. So anyone have any ideas who might also have the #10 rear in stock?

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                      • #12
                        67goat
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 896

                        TopGunSupply has front #5 and #6 in stock, but only contrast. No #10 rear.

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                        • #13
                          SouperMan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1463

                          With the price of .357SIG ammo going for what it is, I'd suggest switching back to .40S&W LOL.

                          OP, seems like cdnninvestments has the #10 rear in stock, but maybe someone can attest to this retailer: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/sig10recosts.html

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                          • #14
                            aca72
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 3248

                            I have a rear #10 but I'm selling the set. See my signature below...
                            Long live CALGUNS!

                            Selling: ✮ GLOCK ✮ Beretta ✮ SIG Sauer ✮ Stuff ✮

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                            • #15
                              SFShep
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 189

                              Originally posted by SouperMan
                              With the price of .357SIG ammo going for what it is, I'd suggest switching back to .40S&W LOL.

                              OP, seems like cdnninvestments has the #10 rear in stock, but maybe someone can attest to this retailer: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/sig10recosts.html
                              Wow! $2.99 for a factory sight? The shipping will be more than the sight itself!

                              Ordered one, now just to wait to install it and see if it corrects the problem...

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