First Cousin is giving me a handgun

[groyalc]

[Librarian]

NOT an intrafamilial transfer - that's children/grandchildren, parents/children.

He can still give it to you as a gift, but you are correct, you must do the transfer at a CA FFL, and the handgun MUST be on the Roster. DROS, 10-day wait, handling demo, all that stuff will be required.

You WILL need an HSC.

[groyalc]

Ok, thats what I was thinking but wanted to make sure. So I just need to go to a local dealer, bring my cousin along, fill out the paperwork, pay, and wait 10 days then.

Thanks for the information!

[Mr. Kimber]

You will have to get your HSC (Very simple to do)! and have it transfered through an FFL dealer. It will then be in your name and all legal. You will have to pay the DOJ fee of $27.00 and wait the ten days as required by California law.

You and your cousin will both have to be present at the FFL for the transfer to be done as you will both have to fill out paperwork related to his giving you the gun as a gift!

[savasyn]

I thought buying guns from out of state folks is tricky if they were in town. Something about the FFL having to take the gun into inventory then selling it again(thus requiring it to be on-list). If what I remember is accurate, it also opens the buyer up to a lot more fees as it's no longer covered under the PPT max charge.

I'd love to be wrong, though!

[SemiAutoSam]

I'm told by a local FFL that purchasing firearms out of state presently is as easy as filling out one of these forms.

I don't have the specifics as of yet but I will be attempting it very soon and will report back with my findings.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/oplaw.pdf

I thought buying guns from out of state folks is tricky if they were in town. Something about the FFL having to take the gun into inventory then selling it again(thus requiring it to be on-list). If what I remember is accurate, it also opens the buyer up to a lot more fees as it's no longer covered under the PPT max charge.

I'd love to be wrong, though!

[aplinker]

I thought buying guns from out of state folks is tricky if they were in town. Something about the FFL having to take the gun into inventory then selling it again(thus requiring it to be on-list). If what I remember is accurate, it also opens the buyer up to a lot more fees as it's no longer covered under the PPT max charge.

I'd love to be wrong, though!

Yup... if the seller is from out of state, this will be handled like the seller shipped it in. Even though it's a gift.

It has to be on list.

You will be charged a fee.

[groyalc]

Yup... if the seller is from out of state, this will be handled like the seller shipped it in. Even though it's a gift.

It has to be on list.

You will be charged a fee.

Soooo, would it be easier if he was not there? This is where I am getting confused.

Gotta love these CA laws.

[savasyn]

I think it'd be the same whether he was here or not. You'll just get charged extra fees from the FFL as they'll treat it as an out of state purchase.
You may want to discuss it with a few FFLs before you commit to one.

[Decoligny]

Why not pick out the gun you want, and have your cousin give you a gift of the money he would have spent on the gun? That way you know it's on the list, and you avoid the hassle of the transfer. Just an ordinary handgun purchase.

[berkeleygiraffe]

or have your cousin give it to your grandpa and your grandpa give it to you...? then you would avoid the whole list problem and it would be an interfamily transfer?

[socalguns]

PPTs are for residents only

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php

# What is the process for purchasing a firearm in California?

All firearms purchases and transfers, including private party transactions and sales at gun shows, must be made through a licensed dealer under the Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) process. California imposes a 10-day waiting period before a firearm can be released to a buyer or transferee. A person must be at least 18 years of age to purchase a rifle or shotgun. To buy a handgun, a person must be at least 21 years of age, and either 1) possess an HSC plus successfully complete a safety demonstration with the handgun being purchased or 2) qualify for an HSC exemption.

As part of the DROS process, the buyer must present "clear evidence of identity and age" which is defined as a valid, non-expired California Driver's License or Identification Card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles. A military identification accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California is also acceptable.

If the buyer is not a U.S. Citizen, then he or she is required to demonstrate that he or she is legally within the United States by providing to the firearms dealer with documentation that contains his/her Alien Registration Number or I-94 Number.

Purchasers of handguns are also required to provide proof of California residency, such as a utility bill, residential lease, property deed, or government-issued identification (other than a drivers license or other DMV-issued identification).

(PC Section 12071)

[groyalc]

Thanks for all the info! I think that about covered it!!