Glock drops shells on head

[Charlie50]

Ok you Glock expert gun plumber type guys, I just purchased a Glock 19, works pretty good for me but tends to eject shell casings towards my right shoulder. When my wife was shooting it the casings were mostly falling right on her, hitting her head. I got her using a firmer grip but still tended to hit her or just miss her shoulder. I was using Federal FMJ target loads. Hornady personal defense loads seemed to eject a little further. We are right handed. Never owned a Glock before (avoided the cool aid) and was wondering if this is typical or does this unit have a problem?

[Freq18Hz]

Extractor/spring needs to be tuned and or matched better. Common problem with all semi-auto pistols that aren't set up right for the load, and strength of recoil spring. Typically cheaper pistols have these kinds of issues, but they happen on expensive guns as well, just not as often. You can try a different load, but I would send it back to Glock.

-Freq

[mr00jimbo]

Is it a gen 3 or gen 4? The new Gen 4 recoil spring and ejector combinations had some problems out of the gate. brass to the head/face is a problem many shooters with newer Glock 9s face. Glock has made different recoil springs and ejectors to improve this problem, some worked, some did not.
Call Glock up and they will take it back and make it right.

[Charlie50]

Is it a gen 3 or gen 4? The new Gen 4 recoil spring and ejector combinations had some problems out of the gate. brass to the head/face is a problem many shooters with newer Glock 9s face. Glock has made different recoil springs and ejectors to improve this problem, some worked, some did not.
Call Glock up and they will take it back and make it right.

Its a spankin new Gen 3.

UPDATE: Just got off phone, I could send in and will be 2-3 weeks. I could take it to a certified glock armorer and it would be less time. The tech claimed that it will likey improve on its own with simply more rounds, allowing the recoils spring to "condition".. get a bit softer. Does this sound like BS or should I just get it fixed?

[DVSmith]

Its a spankin new Gen 3.

UPDATE: Just got off phone, I could send in and will be 2-3 weeks. I could take it to a certified glock armorer and it would be less time. The tech claimed that it will likey improve on its own with simply more rounds, allowing the recoils spring to "condition".. get a bit softer. Does this sound like BS or should I just get it fixed?

After working with Kimber and Springfield on a couple of issues with brand new guns, I run a few hundred rounds through a new gun now and clean it a few times before I send it back. Kimber wants 400, but I hate wasting that much ammo to see if something wears in. So, I would give it a try.

[Charlie50]

After working with Kimber and Springfield on a couple of issues with brand new guns, I run a few hundred rounds through a new gun now and clean it a few times before I send it back. Kimber wants 400, but I hate wasting that much ammo to see if something wears in. So, I would give it a try.

I hear you, I tried to talk the tech into sending me a certificate for a few boxes of ammo to "fix" their Glock... no dice on that. Maybe I should go on up to the range and "waste" some 9mm today. I am doing this hardship for my wife... right?

[INFAMOUS762X39]

I have a brand new G19 Gen3 that had this issue as well, it's called Brass to the Face/Erratic Ejections.

This solution tooks weeks of research and a month of trial and error. All the "Glock Armorers" I asked here on calguns said it was my ammo/recoil spring. Which is/was not the issue at all. I wanted to figure out the issue myself without sending it in to Glock.

THIS isn't a Definative Answer, since Glock refuses to admit this issue. But it is my answer since it stop BTTF immediately for me 110% improvement. A rare few who have done the same said it made it worse. Here is the basic run-down.

G19 Gen3 are a hit or miss when it comes to being in spec or not. I/we found out the hard way, constant BTTF on my new G19. What the issue is the old/sharp 336 Ejector and out of spec #3 Dipped Extractor made out of MIM. Thus casing weak/erratic ejections.

I replaced both parts. I bought a Gen4 9mm Trigger Housing #30275, and took the updated #30274 Ejector out from the Gen4 housing and installed it in my stock Gen3 Trigger housing. I also ditched the old dipped extractor for a #4 Non-Dipped LCI OEM 9mm Extractor, which I think is Carbon steel/in spec.

Gen4 Trigger Housing is like 8$
#4 9mm OEM Extractor is like 18$

Fixed my problem immediately, all spent casings now eject 4 o'clock all day.

Any questions feel free to ask away.

[DVSmith]

I have a brand new G19 Gen3 that had this issue as well, it's called Brass to the Face/Erratic Ejections.

This solution tooks weeks of research and a month of trial and error. All the "Glock Armorers" I asked here on calguns said it was my ammo/recoil spring. Which is/was not the issue at all. I wanted to figure out the issue myself without sending it in to Glock.

THIS isn't a Definative Answer, since Glock refuses to admit this issue. But it is my answer since it stop BTTF immediately for me 110% improvement. A rare few who have done the same said it made it worse. Here is the basic run-down.

G19 Gen3 are a hit or miss when it comes to being in spec or not. I/we found out the hard way, constant BTTF on my new G19. What the issue is the old/sharp 336 Ejector and out of spec #3 Dipped Extractor made out of MIM. Thus casing weak/erratic ejections.

I replaced both parts. I bought a Gen4 9mm Trigger Housing #30275, and took the updated #30274 Ejector out from the Gen4 housing and installed it in my stock Gen3 Trigger housing. I also ditched the old dipped extractor for a #4 Non-Dipped LCI OEM 9mm Extractor, which I think is Carbon steel/in spec.

Gen4 Trigger Housing is like 8$
#4 9mm OEM Extractor is like 18$

Fixed my problem immediately, all spent casings now eject 4 o'clock all day.

Any questions feel free to ask away.

Did you try each part independently? Did either change the characteristic of the brass ejection? For good or worse?

[9mmepiphany]

was wondering if this is typical or does this unit have a problem?

I wouldn't call it typical, but it certainly wouldn't be called uncommon either.

It is common enough that the coined term for it is Brass To Face (BTF)...so at least you know it isn't just your gun.

My friend's Gen3 didn't start until after 1000 rounds and he sent it back to the fcatory of their dime. When returned, the problem was worst and he sent it back again. They replaced it with a new G19 and we're going to shoot it some next Friday.

So it cost him another DROS fee, but at least they picked up shipping...which I've been reading they won't always do. If they don't, it's $60 each time and they don't guaranty that it will fix the problem...which they don't admit is a design problem.

There are a number of stop gaps using a combination of swapped extractor and ejectors which might work...at least they are cheap

[tal3nt]

For some reason, whether it's the fact that we eventually figure out the key to properly shooting a glock, or if it's the recoil spring/extractor/ejector getting broken in and worn in all the right spots, over time the issue eventually subsides (for the most part). I get hit in the head still every now and then, but its gotten very rare (and I shoot primarily less hotter reloaded rounds). Notice how it'll happen every time when you shoot one handed. A lot of it has to do with a firm, and I mean firm, grip. Many people claim to have found the fix: gen4 ejector housing, apex extractor, non-dipped extractor, ect., but I don't think it's an issue that needs to be "fixed". It never happens when I use factory loads. Even the lower end stuff. Congrats on your new glock!

[SarcoBlaster]

Making it hail!

[paul0660]

Sounds perfect to me.

[shadowofnight]

Its so they can have a small amount of your dna on each case before it hits the floor.

[Lead Waster]

If it were me, I'd wear a sombrero because I reload used brass and that would make life simpler.

[chonkey]

I have a brand new G19 Gen3 that had this issue as well, it's called Brass to the Face/Erratic Ejections.

This solution tooks weeks of research and a month of trial and error. All the "Glock Armorers" I asked here on calguns said it was my ammo/recoil spring. Which is/was not the issue at all. I wanted to figure out the issue myself without sending it in to Glock.

THIS isn't a Definative Answer, since Glock refuses to admit this issue. But it is my answer since it stop BTTF immediately for me 110% improvement. A rare few who have done the same said it made it worse. Here is the basic run-down.

G19 Gen3 are a hit or miss when it comes to being in spec or not. I/we found out the hard way, constant BTTF on my new G19. What the issue is the old/sharp 336 Ejector and out of spec #3 Dipped Extractor made out of MIM. Thus casing weak/erratic ejections.

I replaced both parts. I bought a Gen4 9mm Trigger Housing #30275, and took the updated #30274 Ejector out from the Gen4 housing and installed it in my stock Gen3 Trigger housing. I also ditched the old dipped extractor for a #4 Non-Dipped LCI OEM 9mm Extractor, which I think is Carbon steel/in spec.

Gen4 Trigger Housing is like 8$
#4 9mm OEM Extractor is like 18$

Fixed my problem immediately, all spent casings now eject 4 o'clock all day.

Any questions feel free to ask away.

The only thing that's been known to consistently fix BTTF is using the Apex kit but the one that's out is designed for Gen4's. Last I heard they're developing specifically for Gen3 (yes this issue affects both Gen3 and Gen4 9mm). FYI I've got a Gen4 with 30274 ejector and replacing with Lone Wolf extractor helped but didn't totally fix the issue. If you can get a hold of an armorer that would probably be the cheapest way to get this resolved. If you send it to Glock they're going to make you pay for shipping.