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  • #16
    Oceanbob
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2010
    • 12720

    We need to follow the law. However, you can travel with your handgun legally; unloaded in a locked container.

    As the man approached you unlocked the container and made the weapon 'Ready' in fear for the safety of you and your family. This is legal and prudent.

    Nice and legal.

    We must follow the law to stay out of trouble. Trouble that can cost you thousands of dollars in legal fees, jail time and a conviction that will cost you gun rights. It is very important to remain legal at all times.


    I have several options for legal transport of handguns. Several locked cases. Your best bet is to always have a lockable briefcase ($27 from Staples) in your car. A quick spin on the combo lock gains access to your unloaded, legal handgun (ammo and full mags can be in the same locked case, just not inserted into the handgun)...and your ready to protect your family.

    This is not rocket science and is perfectly legal. Never travel without this briefcase.. Never.

    One of my options is below for my Glock 29, 10MM.




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    Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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    • #17
      sdallace
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 257

      Can you make one small enough to holster on a belt that's lockable?

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      • #18
        sdallace
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 257

        I shall call it the Glock box. Lol

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        • #19
          brassburnz
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 3553

          I remember reading an article by Mas Ayoob in American Handgunner similar to your scenario but the shooter was actually licensed to carry in one state, but travelled to a different state with his gun. I don't remember the outcome, but essentially the shooter was ruined financially and emotionally, but I guess that's better than being dead. If I can find the link, I'll post it here.

          Here is a compilation of his magazine articles in book form.


          You also might want to read this.


          I'm not a Mas Ayoob fanboy, but if you're asking our opinion on Calguns, you need to do a little more research on your own before doing something like carrying a concealed firearm in public.
          NRA Life Member
          CRPA Life Member

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          • #20
            hakenlag
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 788

            Originally posted by Oceanbob
            We need to follow the law. However, you can travel with your handgun legally; unloaded in a locked container.

            As the man approached you unlocked the container and made the weapon 'Ready' in fear for the safety of you and your family. This is legal and prudent.

            Nice and legal.

            We must follow the law to stay out of trouble. Trouble that can cost you thousands of dollars in legal fees, jail time and a conviction that will cost you gun rights. It is very important to remain legal at all times.


            I have several options for legal transport of handguns. Several locked cases. Your best bet is to always have a lockable briefcase ($27 from Staples) in your car. A quick spin on the combo lock gains access to your unloaded, legal handgun (ammo and full mags can be in the same locked case, just not inserted into the handgun)...and your ready to protect your family.

            This is not rocket science and is perfectly legal. Never travel without this briefcase.. Never.
            Just so I'm clear, are you talking about carrying the gun locked in the case or just carrying the case as plausible deniability? It's a rhetorical question so no reply is needed of course.

            Personally, if I were a prosecutor, I wouldn't buy that story. If there are any witnesses or you or your family/friends should inadvertently say the wrong thing, you are toast. People are real good at opening their mouths and hanging themselves with their own tongues.

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            • #21
              MossbergMan
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1255

              Ca code identifies "imminent and unavoidable" as mandatory conditions to justify deadly force. Since you knew that was a "bad part" of town it was avoidable.
              With that said, it's your story so I'll play along.
              In trouble legally, perhaps. Civil litigation, perhaps. But if you knew you or your GF/wife (I don't know how you got your girlfriend and wife to go out together with you but I try not to judge) life(s) were in danger and you had the means to prevent that....well I'd do it and deal with the fallout later. If you don't survive all else is moot, isn't it?
              Moral of the story....if you carry a gun, legally or otherwise you must be prepared to use it and deal with the aftermath. People go to jail all the time and then are freed, once you go in the ground, you are worm food.
              BTW, a knife is deadly force too. Doesn't matter the form of deadly force you use. If it's justifiable it is what it is.
              Larry Renner
              Plus (+) P Proficiency LLC
              NRA and CA. P.O.S.T certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Tactical Instructor.
              You never rise to the occassion, you only sink to your lowest level of training" Unknown.

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              • #22
                Beelzy
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2008
                • 9224

                Hypothetically, your cellmate will be named Bubba.........for being stupid enough to take someone you love
                to a dangerous part of town without a Damn good reason.

                Cheers!
                "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                • #23
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44657

                  We usually do hypothetical legal things over in 2A, but no point moving this, because you already have the range of answers.

                  1) Carry loaded concealed without LTC is, indeed, a misdemeanor (one for each of loaded, concealed) IF the gun is registered to you; otherwise it's a pair of felonies.

                  2) That incident would be investigated; can't tell whether it would be a 'good shoot'.

                  2a) if not, jail time

                  2b) if so, then still can't tell if the weapons charges would be pursued - some anecdotal evidence that is influenced by the jurisdiction where the incident occurred.
                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #24
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44657

                    We usually do hypothetical legal things over in 2A, but no point moving this, because you already have the range of answers.

                    1) Carry loaded concealed without LTC is, indeed, a misdemeanor (one for each of loaded, concealed) IF the gun is registered to you; otherwise it's a pair of felonies.

                    2) That incident would be investigated; can't tell whether it would be a 'good shoot'.

                    2a) if not, jail time

                    2b) if so, then still can't tell if the weapons charges would be pursued - some anecdotal evidence that is influenced by the jurisdiction where the incident occurred.
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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