PPT Question

[rcserg]

Hello, I was going to do my first PPT (I'm the buyer) is there any negatives that go along with buying private party? I do not know the person so how can I guarantee myself that the gun is not stolen or not his?

Would hate to give cash and then find out in ten days that the gun came back with an issue.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

The seller will have to give a copy of his/ her drivers licence so if it does come back as stolen then he or she will have bigger fish to fry than just you wanting your money back

[sundayduffer]

Seller has to provide id, address, etc... He aint that dumb to sell a stolen firearm at a ffl. Ive done over 10 ppts...no problems thus far.

[rcserg]

Just wary since the price is smokin'

[Munk]

Just weary since the price is smokin'

You're right to be wary. Just make sure you draw up a bill of sale for it, and don't sign it until you've inspected the firearm prior to doing the PPT.

[rcserg]

You're right to be wary. Just make sure you draw up a bill of sale for it, and don't sign it until you've inspected the firearm prior to doing the PPT.

I'll print one up and get all his info.

[brianm767]

First, wether the gun is his to sell or not, this will not come up as an issue during the DROS process, that is unless the gun does come up as being reported stolen, if its not stolen, there is no check to see if the seller is the person who the gun is registered too (in the case of a handgun since handguns do have an owner it is registered too) long guns, with the exception of California registered assault weapons are not registered to any one.

So if a gun is not stolen, any one in possession of it can sell it, it would not be an issue.

The only way to guarantee the gun is not reported stolen, would be to have law enforcement run it, not sure if they would be willing to do that for you.

I doubt if a seller is going to go through the process of a DROS if they know it is stolen, because they will have to provide their ID during the process, but that's no guarantee, they might not know themselves if they did not get it through the DROS process.

You always take a chance on PPT, is there something leading you to believe the seller is not on the up and up?

[rcserg]

First, wether the gun is his to sell or not, this will not come up as an issue during the DROS process, that is unless the gun does come up as being reported stolen, if its not stolen, there is no check to see if the seller is the person who the gun is registered too (in the case of a handgun since handguns do have an owner it is registered too) long guns, with the exception of California registered assault weapons are not registered to any one.

So if a gun is not stolen, any one in possession of it can sell it, it would not be an issue.

The only way to guarantee the gun is not reported stolen, would be to have law enforcement run it, not sure if they would be willing to do that for you.

I doubt if a seller is going to go through the process of a DROS if they know it is stolen, because they will have to provide their ID during the process, but that's no guarantee, they might not know themselves if they did not get it through the DROS process.

You always take a chance on PPT, is there something leading you to believe the seller is not on the up and up?

Just never done a PPT, so I wanted to get knowledge on the process. The member whom I'm buying it from has a low post count but joined two years ago. Just don't want any surprises.

[uhlan1]

I've done about 20+ through here and never had a problem. Worried that it is stolen is not something I have ever worried about. Be sure to inspect it though.
What gun are you getting? (I love getting new guns, who doesn't)

[osxgp]

Just never done a PPT, so I wanted to get knowledge on the process. The member whom I'm buying it from has a low post count but joined two years ago. Just don't want any surprises.

Some people here just read up on things here and don't bother posting. I wouldn't be too worried. PPT is a simple process. Also, some people price things to sell because of bills or want something else faster. I've sold things at a loss just to get rid of it so I could get something else. It happens. All I can say is inspect the firearm and/or possibly have a gunsmith check it to make sure it's in proper working order.

[newtothis]

Kind of a related question - apologies if this isn't the right place to ask but it's kind of related. Can the seller keep his/her address private?

[Librarian]

Kind of a related question - apologies if this isn't the right place to ask but it's kind of related. Can the seller keep his/her address private?

No.

Sometimes sales are refused by DOJ, perhaps because the buyer is a prohibited person. In that case, the FFL is required to submit the seller's info for background check, before returning the gun to him/her.

[newtothis]

Sorry - I should've been more specific. Can seller keep home address private from buyer?

[Librarian]

Sorry - I should've been more specific. Can seller keep home address private from buyer?

It's been a while since I bought PPT. IIRC, the seller's info was NOT on the copy of the DROS paperwork I got. So, I think the answer is 'yes, you can keep your home addy private from the buyer.'

[ke6guj]

both the buyer's and seller's info is listed on the PPT DROS paperwork. the FFL is supposed to redact the other party's info on the copy of the paperwork that he gives you.

that doesn't mean that the dealer will actually do it though.

28215 (f) If the transaction is a private party transfer conducted
pursuant to Chapter 5 (commencing with Section 28050), a copy shall
be provided to the seller or purchaser by the dealer, upon request.
The dealer shall redact all of the purchaser's personal information,
as required pursuant to subdivision (a) of Section 28160 and
subdivision (a) of Section 28165, from the seller's copy, and the
seller's personal information from the purchaser's copy.