Having trouble understanding all this stuff

[OldeTSgt]

Okay - I am tired and I got a headache trying to understand the laws in CA.

I am a TX resident - I want to go to a friends house in CA, (I am flying) and she and I want to go to the range while I am there (she enjoys shooting) I have a
S&W SD9 with a 10 rd magazine and a Bersa duotone Thunder 380 I was gonna bring with me (in locked cases of course,because I am flying) and we wanted to go shooting together.

Since I am visiting - can I bring these guns into the state or not? It will be a 4 to 10 day stay only.

And should I decide to someday move to CA would I have to get rid of these guns because they are not on the approved DOJ list. I have no idea about this stuff the SKU's and stuff has my head swimming

Any help?

[DzBrain]

From what I know, you should be fine as long as you only have assembled 10 rnd or less mags. The Doj list only applies to retail purchases.

Have fun!

[Librarian]

Right - Roster applies only to sales, not possession.

See also the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Mo..._with_firearms

[OldeTSgt]

Thanks

Also, another question - If I am reading this right should I move from TX to CA, I will have to get a HSC and fill out a DROS for the guns I have (and I will have to sell or do something with my magazines 16 rd mags or sell my 9 mm and get a 45 that has a mag capacity of 10, or just run 10 rd mags in my 9mm) but as long as they are mine at the time of me becoming a CA resident I can still possess them in the State? Oh, and pay the registration fee of $19 per gun (this is gonna get expensive. Because I have a few weapons, most are muzzleloaders and sporting guns - but include a Mosin Nagant, Ruger 10/22 and Remington 1100.

I am still trying to figure out what I am gonna do with my WASR 10/63 and my S&W MP 15 - if I read this right - I have to register them as "Assault weapons"

Maybe I was just tired from staying up late on Christmas Eve - but damn if I can figure this stuff out - not a lawyer.

[rromeo]

Starting backwards, the semiauto rifles currently need no registration. The would likely need magazine locks ( Like a Bullet-Button)
Mosin Nagant, 10-22, and the Rem 1100, shouldn't have issues.

$19 is only for the handguns. Yes, disassemble the magazines over 10 rounds or sell them. If you're going to sell a handgun, chances are you could get a bit more money after you move to California, if it's not on the roster.

[Munk]

Starting backwards, the semiauto rifles currently need no registration. The would likely need magazine locks ( Like a Bullet-Button)

For our texan friend's benefit: Check the top of the page on the forums here for "flowcharts and OLL assembly guide." Follow the assault weapon flowchart and adjust your gun accordingly.

Essentially, if the receiver is named on the list it's a no go and you'll have to get a receiver that's not on the list. If your gun is qualified by features, then you can either remove the features OR render the gun into a non-AW by making the mag "fixed". If you get a bullet-button, do NOT use one of those little magnet button tools that stick in the mag-release while inside CA. You may possess one for usage out of state (there's no constructive AW possession) but if you use the tool, you've "undone" the fixing of the magazine by using it here.

As far as your magazines, you can permanently block the mags to 10 rounds, or you may simply dissassemble the magazine and not use it, or you may sell the mags and buy some new 10 rounders.

[Librarian]

Also, another question - If I am reading this right should I move from TX to CA, I will have to get a HSC and fill out a DROS for the guns I have (and I will have to sell or do something with my magazines 16 rd mags or sell my 9 mm and get a 45 that has a mag capacity of 10, or just run 10 rd mags in my 9mm) but as long as they are mine at the time of me becoming a CA resident I can still possess them in the State? Oh, and pay the registration fee of $19 per gun (this is gonna get expensive. Because I have a few weapons, most are muzzleloaders and sporting guns - but include a Mosin Nagant, Ruger 10/22 and Remington 1100.

I am still trying to figure out what I am gonna do with my WASR 10/63 and my S&W MP 15 - if I read this right - I have to register them as "Assault weapons"

Maybe I was just tired from staying up late on Christmas Eve - but damn if I can figure this stuff out - not a lawyer.

Tired works.

DROS is Dealer's Record Of Sale - since you already own your guns, that does not apply.

HSC, the Handgun Safety Certificate, is required only when transferring (as a receiver), not for possession.

You CANNOT register anything as an 'assault weapon' - all the registration periods have been closed for years. Rather, you cannot import anything CA thinks is an 'assault weapon'. Neither of the rifles you mention is 'banned by name', so adding a bullet-button and running 10-round mags would make them legal. No paper for long guns, until Jan 1, 2014.

For mags, get 10-rounders to use, and take apart any that are 11+ to keep as parts kits; don't reassemble them in CA. That applies to rifle mags, as well.