20 round mag. question...

[sexybeast]

can u legally pin and block a 20 round mag. and then send it to cali and will it be cali. compliant.
2nd question
part 2 of my question is my mom is gifting me a sig 226 tact. ops but i want to make sure i'm legal, is there an aftermarket mag that i can buy that will fit in this handgun that will function properly?
thanks

[IronColt]

You can send it as a kit.

[CSACANNONEER]

The easiest thing for you to do is send it in pieces and let the buyer deal with either keeping it in pieces, using it to repair a mag he already legally owns or make a permanent 10 round or less mag with it.

[sexybeast]

maybe i'm not explaining myself properly, my mom is sending me a sig tact ops 226, it has 4 20 round mags that come with it. can the mags be pined and blocked to only hold 10 rounds so it can transfered legally

[CSACANNONEER]

maybe i'm not explaining myself properly, my mom is sending me a sig tact ops 226, it has 4 20 round mags that come with it. can the mags be pined and blocked to only hold 10 rounds so it can transfered legally

Maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough. The mags can be taken apart and sent to CA in pieces. Then, you can either leave them in pieces, repair any +10 round mags you have with the parts or pin/plug them and permanently render them to ten rounds or less. They do not have to be "pinned" out of state if they are in "parts kit" form.

[Chaos47]

Yes, you can legally limit a "large-capacity magazine" in CA to 10 rounds.

There is no definition of "permanently altered"
Do a search and you will find a lot of different ideas on what that means. Do what you feel is legal.

Throw this into google:
site:calguns.net permanently altered magazine

12020.
[...]
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
[...]
(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

See also:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=387409

[GunDog]

Don't alter the hi-cap mags you have for your 226. Better to disassemble and transfer them as rebuild kits. You can buy a factory 10 round mag for your 226 here.....

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/sig2269mm10m.html

[Quiet]

Because the handgun must be transferred through a CA FFL dealer, there needs to be at least one functional magazine so that the OP can perform the mandatory handgun safe handling demonstration. [PC 26850]

The SIG P-226 Tacical Operations uses standard SIG P226 magazines.
So, you can get factory & aftermarket 10 round magazines for it.
Have your mother disassemble the 20 round magazines into parts and acquire a factory 10 round magazine to send with the handgun.



Penal Code 26850
(a) Except as authorized by the department, no firearms dealer may deliver a handgun unless the recipient performs a safe handling demonstration with that handgun.
(b) The safe handling demonstration shall commence with the handgun unloaded and locked with the firearm safety device with which it is required to be delivered, if applicable. While maintaining muzzle awareness, that is, the firearm is pointed in a safe direction, preferably down at the ground, and trigger discipline, that is, the trigger finger is outside of the trigger guard and along side of the handgun frame, at all times, the handgun recipient shall correctly and safely perform the following:
(1) If the handgun is a semiautomatic pistol, the steps listed in Section 26853.
(2) If the handgun is a double-action revolver, the steps listed in Section 26856.
(3) If the handgun is a single-action revolver, the steps listed in Section 26859.
(c) The recipient shall receive instruction regarding how to render that handgun safe in the event of a jam.
(d) The firearms dealer shall sign and date an affidavit stating that the requirements of subdivisions (a) and (b) have been met. The firearms dealer shall additionally obtain the signature of the handgun purchaser on the same affidavit. The firearms dealer shall retain the original affidavit as proof of compliance with this requirement.
(e) The recipient shall perform the safe handling demonstration for a department-certified instructor.
(f) No demonstration shall be required if the dealer is returning the handgun to the owner of the handgun.
(g) Department-certified instructors who may administer the safe handling demonstration shall meet the requirements set forth in subdivision (b) of Section 31635.
(h) The persons who are exempt from the requirements of subdivision (a) of Section 31615, pursuant to Section 31700, are also exempt from performing the safe handling demonstration.

Penal Code 26853
To comply with Section 26850, a safe handling demonstration for a semiautomatic pistol shall include all of the following steps:
(a) Remove the magazine.
(b) Lock the slide back. If the model of firearm does not allow the slide to be locked back, pull the slide back, visually and physically check the chamber to ensure that it is clear.
(c) Visually and physically inspect the chamber, to ensure that the handgun is unloaded.
(d) Remove the firearm safety device, if applicable. If the firearm safety device prevents any of the previous steps, remove the firearm safety device during the appropriate step.
(e) Load one bright orange, red, or other readily identifiable dummy round into the magazine. If no readily identifiable dummy round is available, an empty cartridge casing with an empty primer pocket may be used.
(f) Insert the magazine into the magazine well of the firearm.
(g) Manipulate the slide release or pull back and release the slide.
(h) Remove the magazine.
(i) Visually inspect the chamber to reveal that a round can be chambered with the magazine removed.
(j) Lock the slide back to eject the bright orange, red, or other readily identifiable dummy round. If the handgun is of a model that does not allow the slide to be locked back, pull the slide back and physically check the chamber to ensure that the chamber is clear. If no readily identifiable dummy round is available, an empty cartridge casing with an empty primer pocket may be used.
(k) Apply the safety, if applicable.
(l) Apply the firearm safety device, if applicable. This requirement shall not apply to an Olympic competition pistol if no firearm safety device, other than a cable lock that the department has determined would damage the barrel of the pistol, has been approved for the pistol, and the pistol is either listed in subdivision (b) of Section 32105 or is subject to subdivision (c) of Section 32105.

[sexybeast]

thanks guys

[9mmlove]

What quiet said^