First Time Private Handgun Purchase

[Corpral_Agarn]

Hello out there!
I am about to make my first Private Handgun Purchase in CA.
The owner of the piece has agreed to meet me at a local gun shop (FFL) to perform the transfer.
Is this the same as purchasing a Handgun from a gun shop?
What do i need to bring? Does a current, valid CCW count for both proofs of residency as it took two proof of residency docs to get it?
Transfers are supposed to be like $35 right?
I am pretty sure I have to wait the standard 10 Days correct?

I just don't want to be blind sided by something I forgot to bring or didn't think about.
Thanks all!

[Pardueski]

I'm not sure about all the paperwork but when I bought my 1911 I needed 2 forms of ID in addition to my HSC card. I used my Drivers License and the registration from my car (which is in my name and registered to my current address). I would call the shop ahead of time and double check. And yes, you do have to let them jail it for 10 days on a PPT.

As for the fees, different shops charge different fees. Again, I'd call and ask. Some are as low as $50, as I understand it most are in the $75-$100 range since they still have to run DROS and do all the paperwork in addition to jailing it.

Enjoy! What kind of gun?

[ns3v3n]

For PPT, they can only charge $35 period. Unless the piece is shipped in, but OP is meeting the seller at the shop so $35. Your license and proof of residency, your car registration with your current address will work, as well as utility bill or internet bill. You best call the shop ahead to see what you need.

[Librarian]

Hello out there!
I am about to make my first Private Handgun Purchase in CA.
The owner of the piece has agreed to meet me at a local gun shop (FFL) to perform the transfer.

Is this the same as purchasing a Handgun from a gun shop?

What do i need to bring? Does a current, valid CCW count for both proofs of residency as it took two proof of residency docs to get it?

Transfers are supposed to be like $35 right?

I am pretty sure I have to wait the standard 10 Days correct?

I just don't want to be blind sided by something I forgot to bring or didn't think about.

Thanks all!

See the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Pr...Party_Transfer -- for details.

You have pretty much everything correct.

It is not like purchasing from a store directly in the following ways: PPT fee, by law, is $35. Money between you and the seller usually happens outside the FFL's store.

It IS like purchasing directly in: the 10-day wait, the need for the HSC, the safety demonstration, and needing a lock before the FFL can deliver the handgun to you. (Because of BATF incompetence, can't use the CA 'safe affidavit' for handguns.)

Your CCW should work - DOJ says

Current, government-issued license, permit, or registration, other than a CA Driver License or CA Identification Card, that has a specified expiration date or period of validity. The license, permit, or registration must bear the individual's name and either of the following:

The individual's current residential address as declared on the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) form

or
The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

If the FFL is cool about the PPT (occasionally one is reported to be less than enthusiastic), consider buying some ammo, cleaning stuff, accessories - that low transfer fee (they get to keep $10 out of the $35) seems meant to mostly get you into the store as a customer.

[Pardueski]

Good info! That's good to know for when I need to do a PPT.

[dpop24]

Your CCW serves as your second form of ID, presented along with your drivers license. I've bought my last three handguns (PPT at two different shops and a new gun purchase at a third shop) using my CCW permit as second form of ID as well as replacing the HSC card.

[Lead Waster]

The shop might force you to buy a lock from them, even if you have a safe. Unless you have a receipt for a recently purchased lock.

My last PPT, the seller brought a lock, and the shop said "OK, we'll sell you his lock for 1 cent, so you'll have a receipt for a lock". That worked out OK for me!

Some FFLs will just let you sign the safe affadavit (basically signing a form saying that you do indeed have a safe to put the gun in).

[Corpral_Agarn]

Called the Gun Shop

So I called the Gun Shop that is performing the Transfer (probably should have started there, really ).
I need:
Driver's License
CCW
Handgun Safety Certificate
$35 for Transfer
+-$10 for Lock

I have to pay the seller outside the shop.
If I want to shoot the piece that day I have to do it before transfer paperwork as it has to go into "Jail" as soon as the process begins.
That's pretty much it...
Thanks Everyone for helping me out!

[keenkeen]

$10 for a lock? RIPOFF!

[Corpral_Agarn]

$10 for a lock? RIPOFF!

Yes it is!
I forgot to mention that the local PD gives them away. That is what I plan on doing.
sorry forgot to mention that!

[Librarian]

Your CCW serves as your second form of ID, presented along with your drivers license. I've bought my last three handguns (PPT at two different shops and a new gun purchase at a third shop) using my CCW permit as second form of ID as well as replacing the HSC card.

To be more precise, one needs
* 1 proof of identification, and
* 1 proof of residence.

[Librarian]

Yes it is!
I forgot to mention that the local PD gives them away. That is what I plan on doing.
sorry forgot to mention that!

You will need a receipt from PD showing you got it in the 30 days prior to picking up the gun.

PD doesn't often do that; some FFLs won't accept it if PD does do it.

Simpler - on the way to pick up the gun, stop at Walmart or anyplace that sells gun locks; they're not allowed to sell any that are not CA-approved.

Do not open the package.

Take the lock and the receipt to the FFL; show both - 'See, I'm meeting the CA law on safety devices with delivery'.

Receive gun.

Leave the shop. Put the gun in your trunk for transport. Drive away.

Stop where you bought the lock and return it - law does not require that you use it, or even keep it.

Sometime, invest in a completely enclosing locked case so you can transport your gun outside the trunk of your car.

[dpop24]

To be more precise, one needs
* 1 proof of identification, and
* 1 proof of residence.

Ah, ok. This is a more concise way to state it. So in my case, my CCW provided proof of residency and also took the place of the HSC.

I'm surprised in OP's post above that the store is requiring him to provide his HSC even though he has a CCW.

[DucatiSS]

Hello out there!
I am about to make my first Private Handgun Purchase in CA.

Does a current, valid CCW count for both proofs of residency as it took two proof of residency docs to get it?!

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Question for the OP. Maybe I am missing something, but how did you get a CCW without having a handgun registered to you? I thought you had to qualify and register each handgun on your CCW.

Am I incorrect?

[Librarian]

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Question for the OP. Maybe I am missing something, but how did you get a CCW without having a handgun registered to you? I thought you had to qualify and register each handgun on your CCW.

Am I incorrect?

That is interesting; generally, you're right - the handguns one is allowed to carry with that license must actually be listed on the license - including serial number.

OP, want to expand on that a bit?