Hello calgunners. I'm looking for opinions and pointers if any. I am considering getting a red dot site on my browning buckmark. My buddy has one on his buckmark and my accuracy was amazing. It was so easy to hit my target that it felt like cheating. Just when I thought I had all the accessories on my guns, something else always seems to catch my eye. I have to admit, it was fun and gratifying to hit 3 inch targets at 25 yards. But again, it is skill or is it cheating?
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Is a red dot site cheating?
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It depends upon what your purpose is. Red dots don't really require any pointers, as far as I'm concerned... they do what they do. Put the dot on the target and, if they're setup properly, you hit the target. The only thing I can think of is to practice with it so that you can snap the pistol up into position and not have to search.
Now... is it cheating? Nah. If your goal isn't to learn proper sight picture, it's fine. I used one for a bit, but quickly dropped it. It added too much weight to my pistol for pistol league.Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. -
I have a vortex red dot on my Buckmark. It is a fun little set upComment
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If your goal is to mainly plink at steel plates quickly, the red dot will be very beneficial since you don't have to worry much about sight alignment. Since you'll be on target quicker, you'll have to still maintain your trigger fundamentals as you may just want to snap the trigger once the dot reaches the target instead of being smooth with the trigger pull.
I don't find red dots to be particularly precise on paper, but for multiple targets it's a significant advantage over iron sights. Give it a try, if you don't like it you can always take it off of the rail and remount it when you feel like using it.Comment
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Red dots are ok for speed but severely limit the precision capability of the gun. Depending on type of shooting you are doing, they can either be helpful, a crutch or detramental.NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
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Want to have more fun? Take that target out to 50-75 yards.Hello calgunners. I'm looking for opinions and pointers if any. I am considering getting a red dot site on my browning buckmark. My buddy has one on his buckmark and my accuracy was amazing. It was so easy to hit my target that it felt like cheating. Just when I thought I had all the accessories on my guns, something else always seems to catch my eye. I have to admit, it was fun and gratifying to hit 3 inch targets at 25 yards. But again, it is skill or is it cheating?Comment
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Since my experience and training is only LE tactical I personally don't use them (and yes I "feel" they are cheating - or maybe more accurately a crutch). I know our military seems to use them much more recently (and maybe LE agencies are starting too also) - but I just always get concerned about that fact that we will all revert to muscle memory (i.e. training) when a situation occurs. So, I have chosen to not even have fun with them out of fear that it will impede my abilities in a high stress situation/event.
I know people here can/will probably prove the red dots have come a long way in reliability, but "what if" it doesn't work when you really it most, and it is what you have trained with or had fun with for too many range sessions that you accidentally go looking for it in a worst case event?
This may sound funny, but I my play time mimics my training time so I never worry about having accidental bad habits come up in a high stress event.Comment
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How is a red dot cheating but iron sights are not?
How is a straight barrel not cheating? Ammo that flies straight is clearly cheating.
It's all just assistance to help you hit what you're aiming at. If you feel like you're something special with that red dot pistol, try shooting a fast-moving target at 50 yards.
Then you'll wish you had more cheating

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I look at it like a car, red dots are like automatic transmission easy to use and easy to learn, not cheating, iron sights are manual transmission, need to learn the techniques and all that fun stuff, once u master iron sights u can master red dot easiersigpicComment
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Why is any device meant to make you faster and more accurate cheating? That's like saying if a criminal is going to break into your house and kill you and take your money, it would be cheating if you didn't fight that person in hand to hand combat.Comment
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I have a red dot site on my .303 British Jungle Carbine. OK, laugh after I'm finished with my story.
I can move across the range and quickly raise the rifle and site in and shoot 2" MOA at 100 yds.
I think it gives me more accuracy when I'm on the move and have to grab the target quickly.
It is my first red dot and my son and I both love it.
But again, there are other factors. I have shot a great deal with .30 caliber bolt action at 100 yds and I'm comfortable with it.
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Cheating is not doing anything possible for you to get the OPTIMAL performance and fun out of any handgun for your specific need.Comment
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In the world of firearms the phrase ...."If u ain't cheatin u ain't tryin!!" applies!!Comment
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