Wanting a new Glock 19

[MotoriousRacing]

I'm a bit of a newb, trying hard to do some firearms research. I'm building the security portion of my emergency preparation. I'm wanting a Glock G19, and I like the FDE, but the Glock USA website doesn't say anything about it. Is there anything different from the black besides color?

Regarding the DOJ handgun roster, these G19s are listed.

Model - Gun Type - Barrel Length - Caliber - Exp Date
19C / Steel, Polymer - Pistol - 4" - 9mm - 6/4/2013
19 / Steel, Polymer - Pistol - 4.02" - 9mm - 12/31/2013
19 OD / Steel, Polymer - Pistol - 4.02" - 9mm - 11/16/2013

The roster specifically states Gen 4's are not yet approved, and I believe the OD is for an Olive Drab (Green), but what is difference between the 19 and 19C? Why are no previous Gen's listed, or is the 19C a Gen 3? Since OD is specifically listed, can I assume that since I don't see FDE listed, it is not approved, even though it may just be a color difference?

I'm asking because I would consider a Black Gen 3, if that is what a 19C is, to avoid the hassle of the SSE and reconversion, and the BTTF I've been reading about.

Thanks for helping a newb become better prepared.

[MalC]

afaik gen 3s have the same BTTF issues. The 19c is the compensated version of the gen 3 G19. Yes you need to do a SSE for the FDE.

[MA2]

The Gen3 OD/FDE were discontinued a couple of years ago. Buy a used one or Cerakote is an option.
There was one special batch, all gone by now.

C's are compensated/ported (holes/cuts in the barred and slide), pointless for a 9mm.
It's your emergency/defensive gun, so C model are definitely not recommended.

Gen1-3 are all considered the same as far as the roster goes (RTF/RTF2 are Gen3's most of those did not make the roster).

BTF, 50/50 draw of the luck for anything made after ~2009, gen3 or 4.

Oh, since you are new, $500+tax+dros is a good price for the Gen3 19's.
If you do not have one, you will also need a HSC <-$25 good for 5 years.

[INFAMOUS762X39]

BTF, 50/50 draw of the luck for anything made after ~2009, gen3 or 4.

Take advantage of this advice. I wish someone warned/told me this four months ago.

I have a G19 Gen3 with BTTF/erratic ejection issues. Going to have to give Glock a call, it's the last thing I want to do at the moment. Such a headache.

It's my First Glock maybe my last, I am trying to give it a chance.

[sunrisefordrene]

i picked up a g19 gen 3 about 3 months ago...have put about 500 rounds through it..never had a problem. most comfortable and easiest shooting pistol i've ever had! I would recommend one to anyone. Its going to be my ccw. Right after I got it , I "frog lubed" it. Works great!

[USMC 82-86]

Have the G19 great gun.

[BadMatt]

G19 Gen 3's are great plastic guns. Mine (2010 model) either has no bttf or I dgas. They are very accurate. B

[Ergo the Qualmed]

Mine is a 12/2011 Gen 3, performs w/o problems; BTTF only happened 3 times out of 2000+ rds

[ElDub1950]

sounds like you're over thinking it. Just buy a Gen 3 G19. Forget the compensated model. If you become a 'collector' later on then buy something pretty or tacticool.

This is your first gun. It's for security purposes. Buy the standard work horse G19. Take all the extra money and buy ammo and range time .. that's far more valuable.

[bac0n16]

I personally own a Glock 19 Gen 3.

Before going any further, I highly recommend going out and test firing one before you make your final decision. I have shot numerous amount of Glocks, 1911s, Sigs, HK, etc, but DO NOT ever go out purchasing a firearm before you have personally shot the make and model of the firearm you're interested in.

Now, first time out shooting the G19, I instantly encounter BTTF issue. The brass was ejecting anywhere from 3-7 o'clock with Winchester 9mm 115 grain. (Please do not blame the user for limp wristing, because that wasn't the issue. :P )

Being frustrated, I went home and did my research just to find numerous BTTF issues as I have encounter. I've read that many claimed that it's the extractor/ejector that's causing the problem and that Glock has a revised ejector out. I was tempted in sending my G19 to have them 'fix' the BTTF issue, but wanted to be sure it wasn't just the ammunition that was causing the problem.

Then I came back the following day, and sure enough with Federal 9mm 115 grain with better results. Brass was consistently ejecting to the 3-4 o'clock without any BTTF. I don't quite understand why the Winchester ammunition with the same load/grain would cause the erratic ejection patterns, but it did.

Ever since I've stuck with Federal ammunition for my Glock. Hope this helps, good luck with your purchase.

[OUTLAWZ]

Hi Motorious,

Welcome to Calguns! Fantastic choice for a gun. I'm with MA2 on saying "NO" to the compensated "C" model for your emergency preparation. I don't think you want a bright fireball in your face when shooting in lowlight or "NO" light conditions. In addition to other unforeseen hazards it does a great job announcing where you are to the "4 or 2 legged predators" if encountered. The guys here are a great and they have a wealth of knowledge to share. In addition, someone here may have the very gun you want or will want (Guns are like potato chips, who get's just one?) in the future. Invest some time (Much better and cheaper then going through hassle of doing SSE and back) in the "Private Firearms Sales" section for the gun and model you desire. I must warn you, you may spend alot of time here in search and stay up late night for days, weeks or many months with no guarantee of finding what you are looking for. Have faith though, if you are patient, look hard enough and with a little luck. You will find what you are looking for and may make a new friend along the way. I purchased a NIB Glock 19 RTF 2 (Discontinued/Off list/Only available PPT) from a fellow Calgunner yesterday after missing the first one he sold days earlier by minutes on the posting. Did I mention I had been looking for gun for many, many months and late nights before the Glock gods answered my prayers? Good luck with your gun and Happy Thanksgiving!

Leon

[5.56Geo]

I think the Glock G19 is and always will be one of the best all around guns. I would hold off on the "C" model as mentioned, you wont like the huge fire ball in low light conditions and they tend to dirty up your front night sight after a few rounds. If you like the G19 in FDE I know where you can get a new brand new one. I just bought a Gen3 from Direct Actions Solations (DAS) in Solana Beach in San Diego County for $549. They order them from Lipsey's their Glock distributor. It took about 4 days for it to come in. The run on FDE Glocks is for a limited time and will be gone soon.

Here is a picture of mine, enjoy.

[MotoriousRacing]

sounds like you're over thinking it. Just buy a Gen 3 G19. Forget the compensated model. If you become a 'collector' later on then buy something pretty or tacticool.

This is your first gun. It's for security purposes. Buy the standard work horse G19. Take all the extra money and buy ammo and range time .. that's far more valuable.

Just trying to learn, not wanting to buy, but what is the actual difference with a compensated (19c) version?

I'm really wanting the FDE. It seems unlikely to find a Gen 3 FDE. Assuming I get a Gen 4 with BTTF issues, I've read here that it may be fixed with an ejector spring or something similar. This is something I'm willing to do. Any other reason I shouldn't go for a Gen 4 FDE?

Finally, I have a Buckmark ready to pick up tomorrow; may not get to it until Wednesday. When does the -can't buy another one for- 30 days clock start? When the DROS is entered, when the 10-days have passed, when the gun is actually taken into possession, or something else?

Thanks for the help and tips.

[MalC]

The compensator re-directs gasses out the side of the barrel, so it reduces felt recoil (& muzzle climb), allowing for quicker follow-up shots. The downside, as others have mentioned, is waaay more perceived muzzle blast/flash since those gasses are no longer headed away from you.

[Tjfearl]

Just trying to learn, not wanting to buy, but what is the actual difference with a compensated (19c) version?

I'm really wanting the FDE. It seems unlikely to find a Gen 3 FDE. Assuming I get a Gen 4 with BTTF issues, I've read here that it may be fixed with an ejector spring or something similar. This is something I'm willing to do. Any other reason I shouldn't go for a Gen 4 FDE?

Finally, I have a Buckmark ready to pick up tomorrow; may not get to it until Wednesday. When does the -can't buy another one for- 30 days clock start? When the DROS is entered, when the 10-days have passed, when the gun is actually taken into possession, or something else?

Thanks for the help and tips.

Compensated means is has hole drilled in the top of the slide and in the barrel to reduce muzzle rise. If you live in San Diego area then I second the suggestion to check out Direct Action solutions in Solana Beach. Congrats on the Buck Mark too. I plan on getting one soon.