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  • Czsp-01-9mm
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1853

    Hot fmjs

    Well I said I would never do it but I'm just curious, I was thinking of ordering some Winchester 9mm NATO 124gr fmj, anyone have any first hand knowledge I know it's 1280 fps, how is accuracy and how dirty is it.
    also I'm gonna try some s&b 115gr fmjs couple guys on says its good stuff
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    -hanko
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    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Originally posted by Czsp-01-9mm
    Well I said I would never do it but I'm just curious, I was thinking of ordering some Winchester 9mm NATO 124gr fmj, anyone have any first hand knowledge I know it's 1280 fps, how is accuracy and how dirty is it.
    also I'm gonna try some s&b 115gr fmjs couple guys on says its good stuff
    Accuracy first, dirt at the bottom of the list...that's why we have cleaning kits.

    It shoots fine. If it did not, NATO would have found something else.

    I'd tend to pick ammo based on how it shoots in my gun, NOT because "couple guys on says its good stuff".

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    • #3
      TheExiled
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 2933

      If its good enough for nato, its probably good enough for paper killers
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      • #4
        zfields
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2010
        • 13658

        Try RWS 124 Grain Sport line.

        Its a bit warmer loaded then most the US ammo, and crazy accurate out of my CZ
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        • #5
          JeremyS
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 2014

          OP you've listed two pretty hot-loaded FMJ loads for sure. I forget if the 115 grn S&B is the hottest or if it's the 124, but you can check numbers on their site (including energy in joules I think is how they list it). Anyway maybe also check Speer Lawman or another brand's FMJ "LEO practice ammo," which is loaded to mimic their defensive hollow point ammo.

          ...and there's other "NATO" 9mm available besides Win's, I believe...
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          • #6
            Czsp-01-9mm
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 1853

            Ive tried lawman 124gr I liked it, grouped pretty well, used it at the indoor range it was the house ammo, even felt good in the glock17 and xd9 tac I rented, not so much the px4 didn't like the gun, but lawman is good stuff, just trying to widen my ammo selection
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            • #7
              Mr. Beretta
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 6614

              That runs a day long in my Beretta 92F.

              Great ammo.

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              • #8
                SIGSHOOTR
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 657

                +1 for the Winchester NATO load. Love running thru my G19.
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                • #9
                  chonkey
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 528

                  I found this from another thread regarding Glocks. I believe this data comes directly from Glock. Notice all the cheap Walmart specials at the bottom: UMC and Federal Champion.

                  Brand Weight Velocity Power Factor
                  Fiocchi 124 1180 146.32
                  Fiocchi 147 1000 147.00
                  Fiocchi 158 940 148.52
                  Am Eagle 147 1000 147.00
                  Win RA9124N NATO 124 1185 146.94
                  RWS Sport FMJ 124 1181 146.44
                  S&B 124 1181 146.44
                  Rem. Express 147 990 145.53
                  Magtech 147 990 145.53
                  UMC 147 990 145.53
                  Lawman 147 985 144.80
                  Prvi Partizan 147 984 144.65
                  S&B 115 1250 143.75
                  Fiocchi 115 1250 143.75
                  Am Eagle 124 1150 142.60
                  Win USA 124 1140 141.36
                  Blazer 147 950 139.65
                  Lawman 115 1200 138.00
                  PMC Bronze 124 1110 137.64
                  Magtech 124 1109 137.52
                  Win USA 115 1190 136.85
                  Rem. Express 124 1100 136.40
                  UMC 124 1100 136.40
                  Am Eagle 115 1180 135.70
                  Blazer 124 1090 135.16
                  Blazer Brass 124 1090 135.16
                  Lawman 124 1090 135.16
                  Cor-Bon match 147 900 132.30
                  My Reloads 147 900 132.30
                  PMC Bronze 115 1150 132.25
                  Prvi Partizan 115 1148 132.02
                  Blazer 115 1145 131.68
                  Blazer Brass 115 1145 131.68
                  Rem. Express 115 1135 130.53
                  Magtech 115 1135 130.53
                  UMC 115 1135 130.53
                  Federal Champ 115 1125 129.38

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