Initial impressions - RMR02 on Glock 17

[newtb25]

The night sights on my 1992 Gen 2 Glock 17 faded away to nothing over the last 20 years. Unfortunately, my eyes are also 20 years older and fading away So, rather than just install new night sights I opted instead for a Trijicon RMR02 red dot.



The milling and iron sight replacement work was done by Mark Housel at L&M (http://www.landmprecisiongunworks.com/). I'm very happy with the way the whole process went. I emailed him on a Saturday (actually Labor Day weekend) and he responded within minutes. Several other email questions were also promptly answered. I was initially a bit nervous about taking the Glock apart and sending away pieces of it, but Mark's responsiveness via email and phone alleviated those concerns.

He has the RMR in stock at a very good price as part of a complete "package", so there was no need to order it elsewhere and ship stuff around. The total turn around time, from dropping the slide off at the post office (Priority Mail) to getting it back in my mailbox (also via Priority Mail) was just 10 days. The machine work he did is impeccable.

He also can supply a cover if you ever want to remove the sight. (The RMR is rather pricey so it will be time-shared with another gun).





One thing I hadn't realized is that the RMR is actually a tiny bit wider than the G17 slide, which you can see in this picture.


Fortunately the package includes a bottom plate for the RMR which seals the parts which stick over the sides. It's that silver line at the bottom of the RMR in the first picture.

At the indoor range, groups with the RMR are about half the size of those with the iron sites, so for me the RMR is a big help. Of course, those groups still are too way big, but the red dot makes practice enjoyable instead of frustrating.

[rickster1269]

I like this alot especially the cover plate. Thanks for sharing. What was your total cost, shipping ect...?

[Bask]

Those little bastards are soooo expensive, let me guess, it cost more then your gun?

I do want to try one out, different brand tho...one that is cheaper.

[Sam]

Those little bastards are soooo expensive, let me guess, it cost more then your gun?

I do want to try one out, different brand tho...one that is cheaper.

It seems that those who run their guns hard, only consider Trijicon for their pistols.

OP, how was the red dot at speed? Easy to pick up under recoil? I've read that while accuracy may improve it can be a little difficult to find the dot under recoil or after a holster presentation.

[Bask]

It seems that those who run their guns hard, only consider Trijicon for their pistols.

OP, how was the red dot at speed? Easy to pick up under recoil? I've read that while accuracy may improve it can be a little difficult to find the dot under recoil or after a holster presentation.

They are the best in the business for sure... and they have the best dots, small and round, not like a blurry blob..

Just way to expensive. I guess if my eyes were going too, then all that matters is to be able to keep shooting... I'm on a 9mm only budget

[huckberry668]

Nice!! Question, are the iron sights co-witnessing the RMR?

[Sam]

Is there a compatible holster that will work with the RMR??? Sweet set up.

Yep, what kind did you have in mind?

[newtb25]

I like this alot especially the cover plate. Thanks for sharing. What was your total cost, shipping ect...?

The L&M web site at http://www.landmprecisiongunworks.co...PistolWork.pdf has the current prices, it all depends on what you want done. The slide cover is extra.

Those little bastards are soooo expensive, let me guess, it cost more then your gun?

I do want to try one out, different brand tho...one that is cheaper.

Yes, just the sight costs more than a new G17! Doesn't seem right, but the less expensive units apparently don't hold up when mounted directly on the slide.

It seems that those who run their guns hard, only consider Trijicon for their pistols.

OP, how was the red dot at speed? Easy to pick up under recoil? I've read that while accuracy may improve it can be a little difficult to find the dot under recoil or after a holster presentation.

Well, I haven't used this enough to be comfortable with it yet, but starting out by looking for the iron sights as one normally does seems to work. The dot will be right on top of them. Just looking for the dot by itself doesn't work for me at all. You kind of wave the gun around hoping it will appear, but it doesn't (in my limited experience). So, start by looking for the front sight and when the dot appears, switch over to that.

Is there a compatible holster that will work with the RMR??? Sweet set up.

Yes, they are available from Bladetech, Safariland, and Dale Fricke, probably others too by now. I am using the same old Bianchi thumb break belt holster that almost still works. The RMR stops the pistol from going all the way in, but just barely. A bit of surgery on the holster to remove some material could fix that, but when funds allow I'll probably get one of the new ones.

Nice!! Question, are the iron sights co-witnessing the RMR?

Yes and no. You can adjust the RMR to co-witness exactly, but then your point of impact will be based on the iron sights. What I experienced was, for the load I've been using (115 grain white box FMJ), the iron sights shoot low. This means the front sight is a bit too high for this particular load. I can adjust the RMR to hit dead center, but then the dot appears below the top of the front sight, not exactly on top. This isn't an issue with the RMR, it's just the usual problem of adjusting elevation on a gun with fixed sights. The ultimate solution is to decide on a load, then get a front sight with the proper height for that load, then adjust the RMR to line up exactly with the iron sights.

[DerGlock]

Nice setup

[vandal]

What, no ATOM mount?

Mine is in the for ATOM mount at present.

[DaveFJ80]

Is there a compatible holster that will work with the RMR??? Sweet set up.

I had 4 different holsters for my Glock 19... Safariland (with TLR-1 cut), Fobus Evolution, and 2 custom Kydex holsters (1 cut for the gun, 1 cut for a TLR-1 attachment).

I never had any issues with any of my holsters and the RMR getting in the way of holstering the gun. The only thing that did get in the way for the Fobus and a little bit on the Safariland holster were the taller suppressor sights. I had to take a dremel and cut a small 'canal' where the sights would go, so that it would slide in & out smoothly. I could still put the gun in there with the suppressor sights and no cutting, but I had to really jam it in there.

Most of your holsters will cover the trigger guard and part or all of the extractor area, but that's about it and it won't go any higher since it'll get in the way of your grip. Thus, the RMR on the back of the slide will clear just fine.


Just a couple of pics for reference.

Fobus Evolution holster






Safariland (stock slide on here, but you can see plenty of clearance)

[vandal]

Safariland 6354DO!

[gorenut]

Thats really neat. The cover plate is a nice touch. Thanks for the share.

[9mmepiphany]

Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance has been working with a Trijicon red dot milled into his S&W M&P. He has had 3 fail so far with the adjustment screws walking during shooting. Had 2 go down within the first 1000 rounds

He has now been contracted by Trijicon to do some testing on their newest modifications to prolong the life for the newer units