problem with my p226 mk25

[whynot]

i bought this gun brand new from bay area gun vault a little over a month ago and finally had the chance to take it to the range a week ago. i cleaned it and lubed it using hoppe's before heading to the range. i shot 200 rounds of wwb through it. when i cleaned it afterwards, i noticed that the corner of the slide rail on the frame were scratched into the aluminum, and the corner felt rough and bumpy when i slid my nail across it. this can be seen in the pictures below. the picture with the keys in the background...the brass key is pointing to where the scratches starts and and it ends slightly to the right of the take down lever. the other picture shows machining marks to the left side of the spring housing...yes, i'm a bit of a perfectionist, but at the same time, when i pay this much for a gun...i would like it to be close to flawless.

i couldn't find sig's email on their site so i searched this site and i sent an email to signifo @ sigsauer two days ago and still no reply. who else should i email to have this resolved, or should i call them directly? any help would be much appreciated.

**please don't use this post of mine as a jumping board into sig bashing. most of my family and friends own sig's...i just had bad luck with this one, so lets leave it at that.

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[MRbaker]

Sorry I'm not sure if that is something to worry about, but I had similar wear on a Sig P6 police trade in and was referred to Sig Forum which had tons of info on frame wear for P6s. They might have some info on the MK25 frame wear that could help as well. Hope it's nothing to worry about though.

FWIW, I was told the frame wear on my P6 was normal and to just keep the rails greased well. The wear on my frame rails was a lot worse than that too, but it had a lot more rounds through it.

[whynot]

i'm usually not the alarmist, but 200 rounds in a brand new and very very well lubed gun is a bit worrying. i looked around the web and i found this ( http://grayguns.com/guide-to-sig-sau...ol-inspection/ ) which made me a little more worried

[tbhracing]

CALL Sig and talk to someone in Customer Service. History shows that they stand behind the products. Good luck and I'm sure they will back you.

[MRbaker]

i'm usually not the alarmist, but 200 rounds in a brand new and very very well lubed gun is a bit worrying. i looked around the web and i found this ( http://grayguns.com/guide-to-sig-sau...ol-inspection/ ) which made me a little more worried

Yeah wouldn't think 200 rounds would cause that much wear. Good luck, I'm sure Sig will take care of it if it's a defect.

[unusedusername]

Sorry for the massive content change. I accidentally hit the post button early on my phone (oops!).

That does look a little excessive, however you were basically running the gun unlubed. Use the lubrication guide from Sigforum to lube the pistol. Can't post a link from the phone but its easy to find on google.

Sigs require a heavy grease, and lots of it. A light oil (hoppes) might work for some pistols but is wholly inadequate for Sigs. The way the action works really just throws the oil off the pistol, so if you use oil you have to re-oil the rails every 100 rounds or so unless you use a sticky grease that does not come off during recoil.

The wear on your rails is nowhere near "worn out" as an alloy Sig is good for at least 65k-100k rounds. Just keep it really well lubed and don't worry about it.

Use a dental pick on the inside of the slide rails to look for burrs, especially along the rear inside top of the slides part of the rails. Contact Sig if you find something. You probably will find something of the wear is not symmetrical between both rails.


I don't see anything wrong with the spring housing though.

[pc_load_letter]

Slideguide is your friend

[IVth Horseman]

Yep, you should grease it. That wear should be symmetrical on both sides, if not then there is a problem. That wear is just the finish coming off and as long as the metals not "gouged" badly, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Although I understand what your saying, expensive guns should hold the bar pretty high. It wouldn't hurt to contact them.

[willerfortheworld]

A gun smith will help, the p226 is a proven design, it should be shooting flawlessly..

You have the navy p226 so it should be extremely reliable.

[9mmepiphany]

Hoppes isn't going to cut it for lubrication protection on an alloy framed SIG...you'll need a grease that stays in place. Somewhere on Bruce's site is a lubrication article written by Scott which is a good guide of how much grease to use...it will be more than you think.

I don't see anything wrong with the recoil spring tunnel either.

However, you can check the rails on your slide to see if there is a burr that they missed. If there is, you get the choice of dressing it up or asking the factory if they'll send you a shipping label so they can do it.

You'll have better luck calling them than e-mailing...call early in the morning

[jeffrice6]

A burr on the steel slide will cut into the aluminum frame after just a few rounds. The "good" thing is that the damage is done and should not get worse. You cand find the burr and knock it down, leave as is or contact Sig & see what they'll do for you.
That said, I'd be very upset to find this on my new expensive pistol!

[DirtyLawyer]

I use Froglube on my 226, and thinks are dandy. I had problems when I ran it without as much lube. FYI

[whynot]

the scratches to the metal are only on one side of the frame, the other side's corners are smooth as butter. it sounds really weird but i'm a very meticulous person. i actually do a field strip after about 50 rounds to put an additional two drops of oil per rail, with the thousands of books i've read...i don't even bend the spine of the book, hahah. i called sig this morning and they picked up the phone right away. i spoke to a gentleman name john dain and he told me to send him the photos so he can send it to the gunsmith. so fingers crossed! i'm not looking to get any freebies, i just want a close to perfect gun. lol

i'm the type of person that don't like to upgrade because of quality issues...i buy the best and things that don't go out of style when it comes to cars, motorcycles, guns, and etc.

[BrassCase]

I have the 226 Mk 25 as well. I have also put around 200 rounds through it but mine still looks brand new.

[dem0critus]

just looked at my p229, and that seems like a lot of wear for 200 rounds. I have 2k+ on mine and you can see only a tiny amount of exposed metal on each side. Edit: I have always used clp, not grease, to oil everything on that sig (rails included). Honestly there's hardly any wear at all, but this thread is making me want to go pick up some grease, hah.