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  • brl0301
    Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 139

    Question for 1911 experts

    Hey I just recently acquired a ruger sr1911 and Im enjoying everything about it so far. The only thing that Id really like to change on it is the trigger(pull). Its not terrible by any means but I know that it could be much better with a little time and knowledge. I know I could take it to a gunsmith and have it reworked but Im the kind of guy who gets satisfaction from doing the work myself. So my question is... Are there any 1911 experts on the site who wouldnt mind showing a 1911 newbie the correct way to recut a 1911 sear and hammer?
  • #2
    21SF
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 3491

    I would get an extra main spring and mess with that first.
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    • #3
      MLC
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 10

      I would suggest shooting it for awhile first, see if it wears a little and smoothes out.

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      • #4
        Press Check
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 4879

        Originally posted by brl0301
        Are there any 1911 experts on the site who wouldnt mind showing a 1911 newbie the correct way to recut a 1911 sear and hammer?
        Unlike a polymer pistol, you're always a single stroke away from ruining the sear or hammer, or creating an unsafe, full-auto condition. If you must, I would recommend a Warner TR sear fixture, or a Brown. Your one-time investment in the fixture and stones required to complete the one-time job will exceed the cost to have a Gunsmith complete the job correctly.

        If you're trying to achieve nothing more than a reduction in pull, learn how to adjust the sear spring. In particular, the center leaf.

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        • #5
          sholling
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          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2007
          • 10360

          A 1911 is one handgun you should NOT do a DIY trigger job on. I wouldn't let just any gunsmith do it either. Find a gunsmith in your area with many years of expertise on 1911s and have him do it. For a home defense weapon I recommend no lower than 4-4.5lbs.
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          • #6
            kmca
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2371

            I also like to do my own work. The jig, good files and stones will be a considerable investment. If you're doing this as a learning experience and plan to do more guns, good luck. Be prepared to buy a few spare sears and hammers

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            • #7
              Mute
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 8567

              Are you going to do more in the future? By the time you get all the parts and tools you'll have spent more than going to a good 1911 gunsmith to begin with. If you plan on doing more of your own in the future, by all means give it a try.
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                Cyc Wid It
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 4485

                I'm not an expert, but please function test before live firing. Then do it again.
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                • #10
                  JTROKS
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 13093

                  The first time I was shown how to do a trigger job on a stock Colt using a R. Power jig and India stones it seemed simple enough. Each gun would require attention on the relationship of the sear tip and hammer hooks angles for some sears are longer or shorter. Once you cut the correct angle to the sear then the relief/bevel is cut also. Most quality hammers have the hammer hook height just high enough for safety and just need to make sure they are even, then the contact points polished. No need to change the angle. Doing a sub 3 lb trigger pull that is smooth and breaks crisply using the stock parts is not that hard as long as the sear and hammer are made from good steel and are thorough hardened. Rugers should have good hammers and sears on their 1911s. The last thing you want to spend time on are parts that aren't properly thorough hardened. Just an example I did a 2 lb 3 oz trigger job on my Springfield Armory 1911 9mm using all the stock parts except for the mainspring housing internals. I can drop the slide on an empty chamber without pulling the trigger back and no hammer follow. Here's some good info to read up on before deciding on a DIY.

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                  It should be easier for you to learn on your own due to the vast information available in the internet. I learned from a guy that believed any trigger pull less than 3 lbs is unsafe. I thought he was gonna have a heart attack when I told him my goal was sub 2 lb for my USPSA open guns. Just to let you know that top USPSA gunsmiths can do a 1 lb trigger pull on an open class gun and a sub 2 lb on a limited gun. Get sear and hammer hook jig and a medium to ultra fine ceramic or India stones to do the job right.
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                  • #11
                    brl0301
                    Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 139

                    Thanks for all the replies so far and feel free to keep them coming!

                    I went shooting again today with the gun and the issue isnt the weight, there is just a decent ammount of creep in the trigger and it is suprisingly inconsistant as to when it breaks...

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                    • #12
                      SilverTauron
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5699

                      Originally posted by brl0301
                      Thanks for all the replies so far and feel free to keep them coming!

                      I went shooting again today with the gun and the issue isnt the weight, there is just a decent ammount of creep in the trigger and it is suprisingly inconsistant as to when it breaks...
                      Find the most expensive 1911 gunsmith you can with the longest waiting list in the country, and send the piece to them for work.

                      Option B-you take it to a local gunsmith/kitchen table guy who monkeys with the internals at your expense, you pick up the gun, and end up with an unregistered machine pistol. Yes Virginia the NFA applies even to guns with malfunctions.
                      The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                      The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                      -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                      The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                      • #13
                        aklon
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3122

                        Originally posted by sholling
                        A 1911 is one handgun you should NOT do a DIY trigger job on. I wouldn't let just any gunsmith do it either. Find a gunsmith in your area with many years of expertise on 1911s and have him do it. For a home defense weapon I recommend no lower than 4-4.5lbs.
                        ^^^ This is the best advice here tonight on both counts.
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                        • #14
                          locosway
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 11346

                          Originally posted by brl0301
                          Hey I just recently acquired a ruger sr1911 and Im enjoying everything about it so far. The only thing that Id really like to change on it is the trigger(pull). Its not terrible by any means but I know that it could be much better with a little time and knowledge. I know I could take it to a gunsmith and have it reworked but Im the kind of guy who gets satisfaction from doing the work myself. So my question is... Are there any 1911 experts on the site who wouldnt mind showing a 1911 newbie the correct way to recut a 1911 sear and hammer?
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